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[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: You have my F1 matings!!

post #36768 your on our hatchers list for the thread!!!! yayyyyyyy Trish wants serama but I am having fert issues dang it!! love us some Trish too!!!

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sounds like some good happenings!!!

 

[Mirajane]

YAYYAYYAYYAYYAAA I am so excited!!!! They are sexable at hatch!! Chicken Hawk just sent me updated Images!!! @LocalYokel PAxF2=BC1AI MALES!!! FEMALES!!! Year 1 PAxPB=F1 Year 2 F1xF1=F2 Year 3 F2xF2=F3 and PAxF2=BC1A Year 4 F3xBC1A and BC1AxF2, Year 5 Take pullets from each breeding and mate to cockerels from the other breeding, after selecting for type and color both.

These are so cool! Aren't these your projects? How do you understand the equations? I still have a lot of research in breeding left to do.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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chaos dont think so lol

 

[Mirajane]

chaos dont think so  lol

Well that sucks for him! When he needs help it isn't our fault we aren't useful! And I didn't even try to quote that last long post of yours. Too long for me

 

[kwhites634]

Well that sucks for him! When he needs help it isn't our fault we aren't useful! And I didn't even try to quote that last long post of yours. Too long for me

 

[Gardeningmama]

Quote: You have my F1 matings!!

post #36768 your on our hatchers list for the thread!!!! yayyyyyyy Trish wants serama but I am having fert issues dang it!! love us some Trish too!!!


Is that what that list is??? I'm still a little lost...I saw my name though, YAY!! Trish has all kinds of things going on...she had Polish & Sumatra too. Gotta say I'm excited to see the Seramas hatch...I haven't hatched them in 2 years. You forget how tiny they are.

 

[Chaos18]

chaos dont think so  lol

Ain't my fault you're the one with an attitude.

 

[Chaos18]

Well that sucks for him! When he needs help it isn't our fault we aren't useful! And I didn't even try to quote that last long post of yours. Too long for me

How would it not be your fault?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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You have my F1 matings!!

post #36768 your on our hatchers list for the thread!!!! yayyyyyyy Trish wants serama but I am having fert issues dang it!! love us some Trish too!!!

Is that what that list is??? I'm still a little lost...I saw my name though, YAY!! Trish has all kinds of things going on...she had Polish & Sumatra too. Gotta say I'm excited to see the Seramas hatch...I haven't hatched them in 2 years. You forget how tiny they are.

yes thats who is currently hatchings on this thread lol. and some are not on it cause I aint that good! lol I miss some times. she has harmonyanns curly sues you should get frizzles!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

These are so cool! Aren't these your projects? How do you understand the equations? I still have a lot of research in breeding left to do.

Select only for type in the F1 birds, those showing some improvement that you are looking for. Cull all others.
Mate F1xF1=F2. You will get some even better typed, some that look like your F1 birds and some of each parent variety. Select the birds showing the most type improvement and demonstrating some or all the color traits of PA.
If you get very typey pullets with most of teh traits you want in the F2, then you can use the F2 Pullets under the male PA to get back more color traits but will loose some type from the PA bird that is not improved.
PAxF2=BC1AI
like to run an additional pen or two with F2xF2=F3.
I like to run to at least the F2 generation before making a back cross for the color, even then I only make that mating for a good cockrell to go back over the F2 females that will reinforce the type while working back to color as well.
BC1AxF2.
That allows for the following mating in the 4th generation
BC1AxF3.
Then you will have selected the F3 for type in F1 birds, Type and some color in F2, Type and some color in F3. The BC1A will have more color and improved type but not as good as the F2 or F3 birds. use the BC1A to bring in teh additional color with type from teh F2 and F3 birds.
So the breeding for type improvement looks like this.
Year 1 PAxPB=F1
Year 2 F1xF1=F2
Year 3 F2xF2=F3 and PAxF2=BC1A
Year 4 F3xBC1A and BC1AxF2,
Year 5 Take pullets from each breeding and mate to cockrells from teh other breeding, after selecting for type and color both.