INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[ChickenCanoe]

I think she has too many threads to follow plus life happens.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

I think she has too many threads to follow plus life happens.

True, thank you for responding .. I will try and catch her later .

 

[mlm Mike]

Is @Sally Sunshine MIA ? I didnt hear from her yesterday either that I am remembering ..
I got 7/10 of my polish to hatch. They were /are all sticky. Should I wait a couple days before I give them a rinse ?

No, you don't have to wait a few days to rinse them.

Sally was taking care of chick sales, cleaning house for company this afternoon, will be putting kids Easter Baskets together, and hopefully will eventually have time to get on BYC latter this evening.

 

[LocalYokel]

You are getting good production now and that would be expected from fairly young birds this time of year. It also makes it much easier to figure out what's going on. Sorry if this reply is too verbose but here goes. Consider that it takes about 25 hours, more or less, to make an egg. Most of that time (about 21 hours) is spent in the shell gland getting calcium carbonate and pigment applied. The ovum spends about 15 minutes in the infundibulum where it is fertilized if there is a rooster present. The longest sections of the oviduct are the magnum and isthmus. In the magnum the future egg receives the inner and outer membrane and some water. That takes about 3 hours. In the infundibulum the albumen is secreted around the yolk. That takes about an hour. One of the shortest sections is the uterus or shell gland. There isn't room for 2 eggs in there at the same time. While rare, it may be possible for an ovum to be released into the infundibulum before an egg is laid. Though that usually happens about an hour or perhaps much longer after an egg is laid. If that happens, it would only shorten the time between eggs to about 21 hours unless and egg was kicked out before all the calcium were applied. Much rarer is when an egg backs up out of the uterus and gets joined with other material or even another yolk which is how an egg within an egg occurs. Once the egg is released from the uterus, it is laid about a minute later. All that said, the reports of 2 eggs a day are likely from eggs being laid very late in the day after collection or possibly an egg held in the cloaca while on the roost and laid at dawn. If someone has a lit henhouse or added light that comes on very early or even a bright moonlit night, I can see a hen coming off the roost at night to lay - thereby making room in the uterus for the next egg. I use the following graphic in my advanced class. As you've already said, an egg can get hidden in bedding. A couple years ago there was someone on BYC that swore all their birds laid 2 eggs a day - every day. I suggested that they could get rich offering those genetics to the egg industry. They got very mad at me and said they wouldn't subject their birds to scrutiny by industry. Never heard from them again.

I remember you talking about that I don't want anyone touching my birds.... Lol

 

[ChickenCanoe]

I remember you talking about that

I don't want anyone touching my birds....

Lol

All they would have had to do was give up some fertile eggs to get those super genes spread around the world.

Imagine what the egg industry would pay for birds that lay 2 eggs a day?

 

[Granny Hatchet]

No, you don't have to wait a few days to rinse them.

Sally was taking care of chick sales, cleaning house for company this afternoon, will be putting kids Easter Baskets together, and hopefully will eventually have time to get on BYC latter this evening.

Thank you Mike. Im glad she is ok. I know she is very busy. Bless her heart. Guess I have chicks to wash. LOL

 

[mlm Mike]

Quote: You're welcome. Have fun, just be careful with their heads and not letting water get up their nostrils!

 

[kwhites634]

You are getting good production now and that would be expected from fairly young birds this time of year. It also makes it much easier to figure out what's going on.
Sorry if this reply is too verbose but here goes.
Consider that it takes about 25 hours, more or less, to make an egg. Most of that time (about 21 hours) is spent in the shell gland getting calcium carbonate and pigment applied.
The ovum spends about 15 minutes in the infundibulum where it is fertilized if there is a rooster present.
The longest sections of the oviduct are the magnum and isthmus. In the magnum the future egg receives the inner and outer membrane and some water. That takes about 3 hours.
In the infundibulum the albumen is secreted around the yolk. That takes about an hour.
One of the shortest sections is the uterus or shell gland. There isn't room for 2 eggs in there at the same time.
While rare, it may be possible for an ovum to be released into the infundibulum before an egg is laid. Though that usually happens about an hour or perhaps much longer after an egg is laid. If that happens, it would only shorten the time between eggs to about 21 hours unless and egg was kicked out before all the calcium were applied.
Much rarer is when an egg backs up out of the uterus and gets joined with other material or even another yolk which is how an egg within an egg occurs.
Once the egg is released from the uterus, it is laid about a minute later.
All that said, the reports of 2 eggs a day are likely from eggs being laid very late in the day after collection or possibly an egg held in the cloaca while on the roost and laid at dawn. If someone has a lit henhouse or added light that comes on very early or even a bright moonlit night, I can see a hen coming off the roost at night to lay - thereby making room in the uterus for the next egg.

I use the following graphic in my advanced class.

Thanks; quite insightful. Too bad you're so far out there in the hinterlands; I wouldn't mind taking one of your classes.
Yes, I'm happy, overall, with my girls' production. Even in cold weather, they do pretty well. They came to a screeching halt during this past hard molt, but from what I read here, they certainly weren't all alone.

As far as being verbose, have you read some of my "novels", 'specially when I get wound up on something I'm passionate about or know something about?

 

[LocalYokel]

All they would have had to do was give up some fertile eggs to get those super genes spread around the world.
 

Imagine what the egg industry would pay for birds that lay 2 eggs a day?

Eggzactly.

Methinks ya called the bluff..

 

[LocalYokel]

I wanna take @ChickenCanoe class..


Guess I gotta settle for what we get here on BYC from you