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What kind of a goat is he ch

 

[Akrnaf2]

Shalom to you all
According to the government regulation, I can't import to Israel even one egg, even if it is an egg from a very known breeder.
But from the other hand the agriculture department import MILLIONS of eggs from Turkey,Holland,Spain, and this year from Ukraine. And what a "surprise" the eggs that came from the Ukraine was infected with an UNKNOWN subspecies of SALMONELLA!! The results: one men dead, dozen hospitalized!! How stupid can they be?

 

[Akrnaf2]

What kind of a goat is he ch

The kind that makes Meeeeeee and give milk!
Capra

 

[Jessimom]

Shalom to you all
According to the government regulation, I can't import to Israel even one egg, even if it is an egg from a very known breeder.
But from the other hand the agriculture department import MILLIONS of eggs from Turkey,Holland,Spain, and this year from Ukraine. And what a "surprise" the eggs that came from the Ukraine was infected with an UNKNOWN subspecies of SALMONELLA!! The results: one men dead, dozen hospitalized!! How stupid can they be?

Shalom Akrnaf2. That is crazy that you are unable to import any eggs. Are any of the eggs they are importing fertile? How common is raising backyard chickens in your area?

 

[Akrnaf2]

Shalom to you all

According to the government regulation, I can't import to Israel even one egg, even if it is an egg from a very known breeder.

But from the other hand the agriculture department import MILLIONS of eggs from Turkey,Holland,Spain, and this year from Ukraine. And what a "surprise" the eggs that came from the Ukraine was infected with an UNKNOWN subspecies of SALMONELLA!! The results: one men dead, dozen hospitalized!! How stupid can they be?

Shalom Akrnaf2.  That is crazy that you are unable to import any eggs.  Are any of the eggs they are importing fertile?  How common is raising backyard chickens in your area?

All the eggs are eating eggs= non fertail
We have here almost all the chickens ,And outer birds breeds all came here by some mmmm let me refries it , very "winding " roads
This is a very common hobby and we have some grate breeders and breeds here including some very rare breeds!

 

[Saris]

Yes thank you! I will keep all of you updated. I don't want to give up on a little life, it is alive and kicking....so let it finish the race till the end and see what happens. But i still want to hear others experiences with this weird development. Good night all!

I just had one of these, mine made it to day 20 and then died. mine also had it's aircell drawdown/collapse while I was candling it.

I will keep my fingers crossed for you!!!

 

[ChickenCanoe]

$4.76 & a trip to TSC solved the issue; now the proud owner of TWO rubber pans...use one while the other thaws.

I keep several small and large ones. I usually use them for fermented feed but they do make good water bowls for winter. I don't like using them for roosters. They end up with water soaked wattles which tend to freeze off.

Good afternoon all. Have a couple of questions about calibrating thermometers and accuracy.

I just hatched 5 out of 7 of my own eggs in a Brinsea Mini Advanced using their preset thermometer @ 99.6 deg. Because the eggs were quite large I was planning on using a Hova Bator still air as a separate hatcher. Set it up a couple of days in advance to make sure it was going to be up to temp. Have multiple thermometers and calibrated 2 with the ice slurry test. One of them (small black Avian Web in center) did take forever to reach 32.2 deg. I put 5 different thermos in the Hova to be on the safe side. I could never get a reading over 97.6 deg on the Avian Web that I calibrated. Or on anything else that was in there. So I decided to go ahead & use the Brinsea instead.

After taking the turner out on day 18 I was able to get the small Avian Web thermo/hygro inside. The max temp it would give me was 94.10. I was sure I had killed all my babies. They were all candled and weighed on correct days and I could see movement in the 3 light ones and veining on the blues.

FFWD to day 21, 2 hours in. I had the 1st pip. I thought I had heard faint cheeping earlier in the day but thought I was imagining it. An hour later another pipped. And they both hatched overnight. No sticky or shrink wrapped chicks. Heard more cheeping. And then an external pip. Ended up 3 more chicks hatched into Day 22. No sticky or shrink wrap. Perfect fluffed up babies.

My question is this, if the reading of the calibrated thermo was really 94.1 would anything have hatched at all? Or delayed by days? If this same thermo was reading 97 in the Hova, and I put them in there to hatch would they have been cooked?

I am going to recalibrate everything and I think I will put some of the digital ones outside in a Ziploc on Thurs when I know it will be below freezing. This has made me super paranoid about the accuracy of any thermometer. I have ordered a Boveda humidity test kit to calibrate the Caliber IV as it can be reset to correct RH.

Any thoughts on accurate brand as some of these were not cheap.

Thanks Kaycey

I went through the same as you experienced for a long time till I found 2 accurate ones.
I didn't trust the Brinsea spot check because it didn't agree with any of the other ones.
It is accurate but not my favorite. https://www.brinsea.com/p-394-spot-check-digital-incubator-thermometer.aspx
Then I bought a guaranteed accurate Thermoworks pocket thermometer which agreed exactly with the Brinsea. I then threw the other junk away.
http://thermoworks.com/products/low_cost/rt301wa.html It's on sale now for $16, guaranteed to be accurate to ±0.9°F, reads in 5 seconds and has adjustable calibration. I highly recommend it.
Below 95 is the zone of disproportionate development and will cause embryo death or malformations.
http://www.brinsea.com/Articles/Advice/PowerOff.aspx

Out of 42 eggs....19 are fertile. Not a single EE egg was fertile. Blue is mounting but not fertilizing yet. Oh well, 19 of 20 BCM eggs look great

Roosters need to be photostimulated just like hens. In winter, added light may improve fertility.

Question! Who has a rooster in their shower?
Answer...this girl. Lol

Foghorn is doing better, crowing up a storm in the shower...

Not me. Wife would kill me. A rooster in a varikennel on the back porch has me on thin ice.

I'm SO glad that my folks never liked that, which means I never had to have any.....tell your kids I feel sorry for them...

I love liver - all kinds.
My mom had a great beef liver recipe. Good thing because we had it nearly once a week or I may have starved. We ate a lot of cheap meat.
I've grown to embrace cheap cuts and other inexpensive sources of animal protein. Kidney and squid come to mind as excellent nutrition at low cost.

I need eggs!!

and maybe a clean room for the bator...

I so need a clean room. Mine are in the overly cluttered cellar.

Hello all. I've given up on trying to keep up here. So I'll just pop in once in awhile. How's everybody?

If I try, I skip 4 pages at a time. You won't miss much that way.

Well I ended up curling all my flock 18 months ago because of cossis. I just couldn't stay away from chickens so after disinfecting and bio security I started all over again. Two months in and most chicks got the flow pox. I have three weeks in, lost about 5 of my favorite. Yesterday I finally saw the light, the ones left will make it, and some predator got 7 of my juveniles. I have chicken wire on my coops. (Chipper) now I have to invest in better, safer fencing.

Other than that I'm enjoying them. And refuse to give up, incubating, raising and maybe someday have enough eggs that I wouldn't have to buy any.

Are you referring to coccidia?
Keeping bedding bone dry and feeders full so they only get a slight dose of the oocysts and healthy chickens will become resistant.

Raccoons and other predators laugh at chicken wire. Keeps chickens in but doesn't protect them.
If you build it, they will come.
I had all my buildings raccoon proof and after 150 years of chicken keeping here, voila - mink arrived. Killed 6 flocks of chickens in 6 nights with no opening larger than an inch.

Oz's dream is to create a way for the locals in the Phillipines, where he and his family live (except when he's in California making a living),to have a better way of life through better diet. To that extent, he's introduced new strains of chickens, goats, hogs, and whatever else he's added in the last couple months since I was last on his thread. The thread is an ongoing, ever-developing diary of his successes, failures and family's lives since the beginning.

I was the first to respond to his first post. "Am I crazy?" I told him to go for it.

No I'm going tomorrow....I got a dr appointment in town first thing in the morning. I did stop at a different feed store though. Picked up some oyster shell and a few bails of straw

I went to Farm & Home across the road from TSC. Oyster shell there was $10 for 10#. I put it back. I can get it from my co-op for $10 for 50#. But I have to buy $500 worth of feed to order.
The old timey feed store up the street from me has OS for 50 cents a pound so I got 4 lbs. to get me through till my next order.

Our lights keep flickering...might lose power! Have to love a charged laptop!

This time of year, I start the generator a couple times a month to make sure it is still working. Just for refrigerators, freezers, incubators and electric heaters.

Good Thursday Morning Everybody!

It's a no frost morning here, so things are looking up!
Scott

We were 58F on Friday and 42F Saturday morning but hit 7F Saturday night.

Shalom to you all
According to the government regulation, I can't import to Israel even one egg, even if it is an egg from a very known breeder.
But from the other hand the agriculture department import MILLIONS of eggs from Turkey,Holland,Spain, and this year from Ukraine. And what a "surprise" the eggs that came from the Ukraine was infected with an UNKNOWN subspecies of SALMONELLA!! The results: one men dead, dozen hospitalized!! How stupid can they be?

Shalom.
No avian commodities including hatching eggs from Turkey and Ukraine are allowed into the US because of HPAI. (highly pathogenic avian influenza)
Israel reported an outbreak of Newcastle in 2001. I guess that is past?

Here's your procedure to get hatching eggs exported from the US to Israel.
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/regulations/vs/iregs/animals/downloads/is_pr_po_hc.pdf

The nefarious ways of getting birds to which you have referred is how these things spread.
People that should know better bring in things on the sly. The rules are there for a reason.
I knew a person that worked for the US govt. working in Costa Rica. He carried hatching eggs to CR without any of the documentation because he could.
Not good.

Yes thank you! I will keep all of you updated. I don't want to give up on a little life, it is alive and kicking....so let it finish the race till the end and see what happens. But i still want to hear others experiences with this weird development. Good night all!

That isn't close to hatching. It may - for some unknown reason - have been late starting to develop.
I really can't see into most of my eggs so I just leave them alone and don't discard unless they leak or stink.
I once had an egg set with the rest that hadn't hatched and on day 25, I opened it for an eggtopsy only to discover a live chick about to hatch.

 

[scottcaddy]

Good Monday Morning everybody!!
I do hope that all is ok, I had to skip a few hundred posts again.
Scott

 

[canadachickens]

Good morning Scott!
Just us early birds this morning!
Have a great day everyone!

 

[scottcaddy]

Good Morning CC, I hope that you have a good day!
Scott