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chickendreams24 said:
chickendreams24 said:
Lol wow on this thread we don't half way do anything lol

Been busy today despite all of our precautions some of our birds did indeed get some frost bite but with temps below zero and wind chills down to -20 to -30 I'm thinking it may now be because of us? Correct me if I'm wrong. The "cooler" coop has good air flow but isn't draughty and humidity doesn't seem to be a problem but of course this is our first winter and I admit to being a panicky Mommy. I also admit that some of our birds are more prone to frost bite than others and that some of them are also a bit more special to me.

So to recap and ask questions... One of our two favorite silkies crop was not full at bed check she's a small blue splash and she is sweet but flighty we're hoping to remedy this with a little bit of trimming tomorrow. I have seen her eat and drink today so her lack of crop worries me she has always been a bit thinner than our other silkies but like I said is also the second smallest. I think she may be toying with the idea of going broody but I'm not sure since she doesn't seem real dedicated. Two or three times we have found her laying on the run floor six inches away from an egg with her wings out just a bit and slightly flattened out. She then complains slightly when moved from this position. Does this sound normal? If broody why is she missing the egg? Like I said I'm a worried Mommy but I have been making sure each day despite the cold that I see all the "littles" eating and drinking. She hasn't missed a day of either. Any help would be appreciated I'm quite attached to her and she's stunning I don't want to risk losing her.

Next we have our two oegb roos who are dealing with what seems to be bad frost bite to me. Nugget has dark tips on his comb and Mickey has some that have turned white and some dark tips his also looks swollen and squishy under where he was injured in pecking order disputes after introduction to the flock last week. We have been applying Vaseline and or neosporin without pain killer once or twice a day but both boys have a lady friend who helpfully cleans the goop off. I wish I could explain that it is necessary of course I can't but I'm not sure what else I can do. I would love to bring them in the house but they hate each other and Mickey's sister would be lost without him. Plus we have five indoor cats. Will they lose their combs? Is Mickey's worse BC of the previous injuries? Is there anything else I can do? Do I need to worry about infection?


...sorry I know its a lot I just really trust and value your opinions and I'm afraid for my birds and afraid that my newbie screw-uos could seriously hurt or kill one of them BC of inexperience. Thanks guys I know you'll be patient and help me.
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LocalYokel said:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...mergency-and-supportive-care-updated-1-3-2016

Watch that "broody" , does she feel lighter than before?
This link is a good read
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@LocalYokel
Thanks for all of your help I have bookmarked the info on emergency and supportive care and will continue to use the information therein. I take your "broody" comment to mean that you think Lovey is just going broody? She may be a bit thinner but I don't understand since she ate like a horse today. I don't feel and hard mass present with palpating her crop and there isn't a smell so I don't think her crop could be impacted. I will keep you up to date on her.

Any further advice in regards to any of my previous questions/worries would be greatly appreciated thank you all.
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Get a digital kitchen scale and start weighing her in the mornings every few days. If she is eating normally she won't lose weight.

-Kathy
 








Crested barred rocks above 1st gen come from these GODZILLA eggs



and lay blue/green eggs = pullet eggs below..... they get greener as they age
project is getting a pretty unique bird,
Jumbo COLORED layer eggs
hens llay as well as leghorns,
fast growing Roos for meaties,
1st generation is sexable at hatch
= Dual purpose with extras for the ladies....















BENNY the MALE PROJECT on the right

HUGE HUGE CHICKS! I should weigh them!



That is big!
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MALE PROJECT




FEMALES 1 2 3







biggest legbar female







See their crests popping up!!!
2weeks












week









Chaos18 said:
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egg to create
F1
cross Bird A with Bird B.
the chicks from that mating are the F1. the F stands for filial.





egg to create
F2
Cross F1 with each other you will end up with F2.



egg to create
PAxF2=BC1AI
BLUE EGGS LEFT
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Next step for me is PB Roo with F2 and PB Roo with BC1AI

Goals....(and I wasn't asking too much here
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but I sure got lucky!)

Great blue Jumbo egg layers, large quick grown males 4 meat, beautiful birds with crests

sexable at hatch

We have two birds, one the color or variety you are working on with type problems PA), and a very well typed line of another variety (PB).
Make the variety cross PAxPB=F1 generation. this was done to introduce type while ultimately looking for the color of PA.

Select only for type in the F1 birds, those showing some improvement that you are looking for. Cull all others.
Mate F1xF1=F2. You will get some even better typed, some that look like your F1 birds and some of each parent variety. Select the birds showing the most type improvement and demonstrating some or all the color traits of PA.
If you get very typey pullets with most of teh traits you want in the F2, then you can use the F2 Pullets under the male PA to get back more color traits but will loose some type from the PA bird that is not improved.
PAxF2=BC1AI
like to run an additional pen or two with F2xF2=F3.
I like to run to at least the F2 generation before making a back cross for the color, even then I only make that mating for a good cockrell to go back over the F2 females that will reinforce the type while working back to color as well.
BC1AxF2.
That allows for the following mating in the 4th generation
BC1AxF3.
Then you will have selected the F3 for type in F1 birds, Type and some color in F2, Type and some color in F3. The BC1A will have more color and improved type but not as good as the F2 or F3 birds. use the BC1A to bring in teh additional color with type from teh F2 and F3 birds.
So the breeding for type improvement looks like this.
Year 1 PAxPB=F1
Year 2 F1xF1=F2
Year 3 F2xF2=F3 and PAxF2=BC1A
Year 4 F3xBC1A and BC1AxF2,
Year 5 Take pullets from each breeding and mate to cockrells from teh other breeding, after selecting for type and color both.

Anyone know what a jumbo normally weighs from the groc store? not what they are supposed to be I know that...
@casportpony you ever weigh one? ANYONE have LEGHORN eggs they could weigh? I have a few leghorn in with my legbar roo, their eggs are pullet and already huge. since the legbar is part leghorn I wonder what chicks would look like.


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my F1 project birds come out of these






Just weighed the F2 eggs 102.8 grams some of the older ones are up to now.







PAxF2=BC1AI

MALES!!!





FEMALES!!!








Banti and Chaos









CBR pullets and Young Cockerel



















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