INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[Fire Ant Farm]

Can you check its eye pupil, and see if you can see iregulatory in its outlines? I think that they are to young for MD, they are 10 dayes old, aren't day?

Yeah, they are too young - ~1-1/2 weeks old. I have a Cream Legbar pullet (technically she'll be a hen in a couple weeks) with ocular Mareks, so unfortunately, I know what that is supposed to look like (though for now she's alive and ok and laying). One of her "sisters" died of Mareks. The remaining third one is ok so far, and I'm using her as the mother of future pure CLs, since she's been the strongest. I'm watching all the babies like a hawk - though I bet they were all born with decent natural immunity (at least for a while) because I understand that while Mareks is not transmitted in the egg, maternal antibodies are. So we'll see how the intersection of all that goes - I'm hatching out more of my CLs than I normally would because of the need to ensure that the most healthy and resistant ones are keepers/breeders.

- Ant Farm

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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[Fire Ant Farm]

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Yes, thank you Sally. Not perfect, but better. I got some good sleep and let myself sleep in a bit for once, then did a lot of stretching - everything was SUPER tight. But I think that perhaps my body was fighting off getting sick, since I had some sniffles earlier. that happens to me some times when I don't get properly sick but I feel like I am fighting something off. I'm going to try to rest, drink lots of water, and take care of myself this weekend (between chores, of course)... I feel like a whiner, because it's not all that bad, and not anything like what others have to deal with, but it's just that it sort of derailed my week and by Friday I was so fed up about it.

- Ant Farm

 

[casportpony]

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DOn't want to scare either of you but @Fire Ant Farm and @Jessimom you may want to read up on Marek's just to be able to hopefully rule it out http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease/

I got some relatively good sleep last night, and was still sore this AM, but tried to do some stretching to see if it's that. We'll see. Meanwhile, I was checking on the baby chicks, and I found a German New Hampshire hunkered under the MHP that just didn't look right from what I could see, so I pulled it out, and it seems to have some sort of paralysis-ish thing going on - can't stand, legs curled under it, a wing out to one side. Also had a wet bottom like it was having watery diarrhea. They are 1.5 weeks old, all other chicks ridiculously healthy/rambunctious. I removed him, wiped his bottom (wasn't much actual poop, must be very watery), gave him some Sav-A-Chick (essentially dipped his beak and he swallowed), and put him in a separate mini brooder under another heating pad to keep warm. Just now I made him some scrambled eggs and tried to see if he would eat a tiny bit, but he wouldn't. He did make a little more effort in drinking when I dipped his beak again, but he doesn't look very good. You can see in the pics on the paper towel that he is pooping almost pure water. These were all healthy chicks form a reputable breeder with healthy chickens in a closed flock. They arrived doing well and were put in a clean new brooder, given a little nutridrench on day of arrival, then just filtered water and Dumor 20% chick starter. I'd like to save him if I can, but if not, I definitely want to know if there's something that I should be concerned about for the other chicks (and also to know for the future). I'm considering treating for cocci, but the not being able to get around thing is a little new to me for cocci. Ideas? @casportpony - Ant Farm

did you check the ligaments at the hock?

I actually already know I have Marek's on my property, and lost a laying pullet it it earlier this year. I know that I will be breeding for resistance in all my chickens here, but would not have thought it would begin to take them down at 1 week old. I'll need to go take a look a the big Mareks thread again. @casportpony , any ideas/thoughts? @daxigait , The chick was running around like normal earlier - ligaments look fine. I'm off to go read some more and make up some amphoral water for cocci for everyone. - Ant Farm

I have Marek's, and never see it in any until they are older. Do you have Corid powder or liquid? -Kathy

Yeah - I just went to reread the Mareks info, and as I thought, because of the incubation period, the earliest you see symptoms in chicks is 4 weeks. (So I'll certainly be looking for that at that age around here - I want breeding stock form these chicks, so I need strong ones). The diarrhea also does not fit in my assessment. I have Amprol 128 (amprolium) - I'm making up a strong batch (0.024%) for the little sick one and and a 0.012% batch for everyone else. Off to go finish that... - Ant Farm

Sick one might not be drinking enough, so you could also give it a drench. I'm sure your math skills are way better than mine, lol, but I'll post this for others that might want to make a drench using 20% powdered amprolium (Amprol 128, Corid, AmproMed, etc). The mfg's say that the powder weigh 2.7 grams per teaspoon, so I would mix 1/2 teaspoon powder with 10 ml water, stir well and give 0.07 ml per 100 grams for one or two days. Poultry dose is meant to be 20 mg/kg per day. Amprolium is very safe, so don't worry about giving it in the drinking water as well. -Kathy

Thank you - that is really useful! I'll see about doing that - chick weighs only 75 grams right this moment. I managed to dig up 1ml syringe, so I think I should be able to dose that small. But I also think I really need to get more liquids into this baby anyway... FWIW, the chick's backside is pretty well drenched (halfway up the belly), and twice now when I've picked it up, I can actually see a slightly cloudy liquid drop coming out, so it seems this is practically running out of the poor thing. The paper towel I have him on keeps getting really wet. Just had a brown poop with a little pink. So far chick seems tired/like it doesn't feel well, but rouses easily and alert/clear-eyed when I give water. Does the amount of fluid loss modify ideas? (Thank you SOOOOOO much, Kathy! My brain doesn't work well when I have a sick baby on hand... ) - Ant Farm [/quote] The amount of fluid loss does need to be addressed, though it won't be easy unless you can get you hands on a size 8 french catheter. I read somewhere that chicks drink ~18% of their body weight per day, but I don't usually tube that much, instead I shoot for 10%. How much do you think you can get it to drink? -Kathy

 

[LittleLakePhil]

Nice are they near by or do you have to drive? When the salmon are running here people line up in the river literally shoulder to shoulder. Never could see the fun in that. I fly fish when I get the time. I've not tied my own flies yet but want to try. Buddy of mine does.

All those fish can be caught a short drive from here..... I'm making an hour drive Monday but that's not bad either.
And I can walk to catch Brook Trout.

nope eleven left of twelve. Hope you feel better
@canadachickens Glad to hear the eggs are doing well.
@LittleLakePhil Here is to good fishing. I hope the snow stops soon.
Everyone else have a great day. Boy these technical meetings are boring.

Thanks Dax always appreciate your comments......
Hope you enjoy those piglets...

 

[flocktastic]

I hope everyone gets feeling better there.

Prayers that you all are doing well soon

and prayers

How scary to get a call like that and still have to drive 90 minutes to the hospital.  I really hope everyone feels better soon!!!!!

Thank you all!!!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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Hello new incubating friends

Wish me luck! First time incubating chicken eggs in my DIY incubator.

It's made mostly from stuff I already had around including:
Omaha Steaks styrofoam cooler
Lamp and cord from scented wax burner. Uses small socket bulbs. I'm using a 20W.
hardware cloth for shelf
2l bottle for thermal mass
2 dollar store picture frames for double pane viewing window.
old computer fan
extension cord
misc 5V DC output transformer, ie wall wart
arduino (I used a pro mini)
relay board (generic 2 relay module from Aliexpress)
Dallas 18B20 temp sensor (and pull up resistor)
NRF24L 2.4Ghz radio module

OK maybe everyone doesn't have some of the last parts on hand, but I have a DIY home automation system that uses these parts as well. That's actually why there is a wireless module attached. The incubator reports back the temperature to the home automation server. If it falls above or below my preset values, it will send me a text.

Here are some pics of the incubator with it's first ever batch of eggs.
Looking through the lid's window.


Looking at the "brains" outside the incubator.


You only have to plug in to the computer to change the temperature setting. The alerts I can change via the HA system.
Next steps will be to control humidity and automate the turner. If there is interest in the project, I'll start another thread, but I've seen other arduino based incubators here before.

@newabyc
VERY COOL!!!! welcome to the thread!! what breed did you set!

@c0c95e6g
Hello everyone! Rookie incubator hatch has started and is going well so far. 2 are out one has its air hole pecked. I removed the egg turner yesterday after one hatching fell upside-down into the turner! So now they are flat with the hatch going, we have a few rocking too. My question is though they are flat, does the air sac cause them to tip up some? Have over half tipped up where the air sac is on top while the small end points down

@cabinchicky Welcome!!
I see cc answered your questions below!! What breeds are hatching?

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I love all the hugs in this thread!!!!

I definitely know where to come whenever I feel low. I feel better already!!!! (Well, maybe that's the wine...)

- Ant Farm

Well, it is not chickies, but here are my newest. I have helped with five of the ten and I thought I would share a picture of the ten she has now since it will be dark when she is done.

Oh DAX!!!! Congrats piggiesssssssss yum!!!

So I'm thinking about selling some hatching eggs.... But, I don't know how I should package them. Does anyone have any methods that protect the eggs well?

congrats on your win for the HAL!!!
@deserteggs22

HOW TO REQUEST AND SHIP EGGS Sally Sunshine Way...
HOWTOREQUESTANDSHIPEGGSSallySunshineWay.docx 940k .docx file
COLD? REQUESTING HEAT PACKS discussion post #32219
Heat packs for shipping animals/etc http://www.tsksupply.com/categories/Heat-Packs/

I just sold this handsome cockerl For 45$! I have asked 50$
Good deal isn't it?

WOW

My fourth in a row..... The wife is a whole different story of rather let alone for the minute.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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each state has its own import export requirements, All require NPIP for live birds, hatching eggs varies state by state but most require NPIP certification some require AI testing and so forth, States require inspections of premises to be sure your doing what you can to keep your birds free from illness. Testing also needs to be done on each Bird in the flock, in PA there are tests you can take to become a Certified Poultry Tech for the state, therefor the state can call on you for testing, you can test other flocks for a fee, and also draw labs from your own flock. I am State of PA Cert. Poultry Technician but the liability is high to test other flocks so I only do my own.

 

[BantyChooks]

Sally

 

[Akrnaf2]

Can you check its eye pupil, and see if you can see iregulatory in its outlines? I think that they are to young for MD, they are 10 dayes old, aren't day?

Yeah, they are too young - ~1-1/2 weeks old. I have a Cream Legbar pullet (technically she'll be a hen in a couple weeks) with ocular Mareks, so unfortunately, I know what that is supposed to look like (though for now she's alive and ok and laying). One of her "sisters" died of Mareks. The remaining third one is ok so far, and I'm using her as the mother of future pure CLs, since she's been the strongest. I'm watching all the babies like a hawk - though I bet they were all born with decent natural immunity (at least for a while) because I understand that while Mareks is not transmitted in the egg, maternal antibodies are. So we'll see how the intersection of all that goes - I'm hatching out more of my CLs than I normally would because of the need to ensure that the most healthy and resistant ones are keepers/breeders. 

- Ant Farm 

AF I think you will find this interesting!
http://www.jarvm.com/articles/Vol4Iss2/Duguma.pdf