Incubator & movement in egg. - RIP Chip/Chipette

[WhiteCrested]

Yeah when he's like sitting or flailing around, his eyes stay open. But when it comes to water or food, he'll keep them open.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Yeah when he's like sitting or flailing around, his eyes stay open. But when it comes to water or food, he'll keep them open.

He keeps them open when sitting around or when hes eating?

 

[WhiteCrested]

When he's eating.
When he sits around, their always closed.

 

[Miss Lydia]

When he's eating.
When he sits around, their always closed.

Don't ya suppose he is just resting he is still new. How is he this afternoon? any changes?

 

[WhiteCrested]

He might be resting because he's new but also when his head is forward like it's supposed to be, his eyes are open then also. And he seems to be the same, still flopping like usual. But is taking in a lot of that polyvisol mixture.

 

[WhiteCrested]

He is sleeping right now but with his head directly straight back into the air.
Does anyone really think these medications could help with this?
Tomorrow I'll be getting all the medicine either way.

 

[Miss Lydia]

Have you read what star gazing is? here is a bit of info. Star gazing is a neurological problem where the chick's head spasms backwards over it's back. Sometimes they flip over. Hence the term "star gazing" as if they are looking up at the sky. Silkie's are prone to this problem. Other times it's a deficiency of Vitamin B1 or Thiamine. If you're using "medicated" feed it contains Amprolium which blocks the absorption of Thiamin in the chicks body, the reason it's used is because Cocci feeds on Thiamine.

So for any of the chicks having this problem, drop the medicated feed if you're using it. Then give them additional Vitamin B1 in their water. I'm sorry I don't have an exact dosage but in the past we added Vit B1, Vit E and Selenium as all 3 work synergistically in the body -- we eyeballed the amount and had our chick looking better the next day. We continued treatment for a week and never saw it again.

Sometimes this type of thing happens if the parents' diet is lacking in Thiamine.

Hope you're able to cure them otherwise it's a life long condition. Do a search as there are tons of threads on star gazing.



this is talking about chicks and silkies in general but does this sound like your duckling is doing? which silkies are born with open skull also some worse than others.

 

[WhiteCrested]

That sounds exactly like him, just that his neck seems to be off placed along with it.
What things should I buy that have a lot of thiamine in it?

 

[Miss Lydia]

That sounds exactly like him, just that his neck seems to be off placed along with it.
What things should I buy that have a lot of thiamine in it?

Heres another; https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/672863/baby-mallard-broken-neck

I have read Most treat with Poly vi sol and add vit e Read the vits listed on the poly vi sol, here are the ingredients on the Nutri drench: molasses, calcium carbonate, choline chrolide, DL-Methionine, l-lysiner, Vit E, Vit A, Vit. D3, thiamine, niacin, zinc, ethlenediamine dihydroiodide, magnesium sulfate, iron sulfate, copper sulfate, sodium selenite, colbalt sulfate, sugar. it has iron but I have given it to my chicks and ducklings and it has never hurt them. On the bottle it says Rapid, Rich Nutritional Supplement For all Classes of Poultry. feed directly in mouth 1ml per 3lbs of body weight.

 

[WhiteCrested]

Sounds like I can do that. For the polyvisol tht I have now, should I be giving him straight drops into his mouth 2-3 times a day like that one person said in the other thread? I still have it in his drinking water but it only has 1 drop of it for 30 mL of water. Should I put more?
The thread sounds exactly like him.