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I've done some between 30% and 40% and some 40% to 50%, raising to 60-65% at lockdown. I've had some on the automatic cradle turner thingy and others that I have turned 3-5 times a day by tilting the brinsea and twisting the lid on the turn-x. The last batch of silkies I opened the turn-x and turned by hand, and none of those hatched, most quit before lockdown. The muscovy pipped before I stopped auto-turning and before I raised the humidity. I raised it when he pipped, and wonder if that killed the others. The other muscovy had a heck of a time and got a lot of help, good bad or otherwise, but she is alive and healthy today.

I'm tempted to leave the humidity alone on this batch and not raise it.  At least until some pip, then maybe only a litte. This batch has been a 45% humidity, non-autoturner, brinsea batch and I've had only 3 quitters out of 13 of 18 that started. Best yet. All 10 alive at tonight's candle. 

Eggs I've opened in any given batch have had normal looking chicks as well as ones with a lot of fluid. I don't know that they looked to big or too small. 
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Based on the excellent details you provided it sounds like humidity issues. Despite all the books saying run bators in the 40 most of us try for the twenties and low thirties.

Also make sure the vent plugs are out during the last half of the hatch.

Humidity is a killer.

You can try weighing eggs and tracking weight loss. It's the most accurate way of knowing your humidity is set right.

If they lose the right amount of water then look to other causes.

Turning eggs early is also a factor. Even with shipped eggs I rest them upright for 12 hrs then put them in the bator and turn on the Turner. There are loads of scholarly research articles showing that no turning for the first few days causes late Embryo death.

Good luck. It's a soul destroyer having so many die at the end.

1200 shipped eggs at >45% humidity I got less than 20% hatch while local eggs 60%. Since I added a dehumidifier set at 40% my shipped hatch rate is up to 55% and local eggs 89%
 
I am incubating button quail eggs that seem to require higher humidity overall than chicken eggs.
Everyone recommends 50-60% until three days before hatch (16 day total on BQs) then 10-15% higher
and that worked well for me 25 years ago in my homebuilt bator in the dry desert air of Albuquerque.
So far the new bator has been between 99.5 to ~ 100.2° since I moved them which is MUCH better than
the nasty Little Giant thermo-crap.

I had not heard not turning eggs early resulted in late hatch deaths but momma bird turns the eggs
all the time so it should not be surprising that bad results occur without any turning.
Nothing beats an experienced broody hen for hatching eggs.
 
Question: Do you guys lift the incubator top to remove chicks while they hatch? I have heard people do this all the time. But then, I've heard that if you do this, the rest of the hatching eggs will be messed up. Any experienced reply would be great. Thanks!
 
Question: Do you guys lift the incubator top to remove chicks while they hatch? I have heard people do this all the time. But then, I've heard that if you do this, the rest of the hatching eggs will be messed up. Any experienced reply would be great. Thanks!

No, lockdown begins on day 18 and I don't open the incubator until day 22. I get much better hatches that way by not opening the incubator.
 
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if you open the top, you lose humidity. if there are eggs that are pipped you run the risk of shrink wrapping them. there is usually no good reason to take them out right away. I leave them in because the chirping and bumping around seem to wake the others up and encourage them to hatch!! (maybe not.. but thats what I tell myself!)
 
I leave them in until I figure the hatch is done but from time to time I have opened it to help a chick out of a bad situation and I didn't have any dire consequences, it is all about how much humidity is in there and how long the lid is open, to crack it open and quick grab a chick isn't likely going to hurt anything, to open it and leave it open for a minute or two you will lose most of your humidity and can get sticky chick where the membranes dry and the chick gets stuck or the membranes dry and toughen so the chick cannot zip out. If you must get in there for some reason it is a good idea to spritz the sides and bottom of the bator with warm water to help boost the humidity right away.

You will not shrink wrap chicks by opening the incubator lid, there is a difference between shrink wrap and sticky chick, shrink wrap occurs when you incubate through the whole period with very low humidity and the air cell grows so large it allows the membranes to tightly wrap the chick, I don't know how low it must be, I incubate in the 20% range and haven't had it happen, sticky chick is what happens when opening the lid during lockdown.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/491421/shrink-wrap-vs-sticky-chick#post_6242987
 
OK, I need a little advise..... My teacher is hatching chicks today so far so good but the humidity has jumped up to 94%. I don't think it will come down in that little styrofoam thing either. I told her to take the top off and wipe the windows off and put the top back on. It is going to jump back up isn't it?
 
OK, I need a little advise..... My teacher is hatching chicks today so far so good but the humidity has jumped up to 94%. I don't think it will come down in that little styrofoam thing either. I told her to take the top off and wipe the windows off and put the top back on. It is going to jump back up isn't it?
how many does she have left to go? I'm guessing the vent plugs are out? I dont have any experience with that but I hope all goes well!!
 
OK, I need a little advise..... My teacher is hatching chicks today so far so good but the humidity has jumped up to 94%. I don't think it will come down in that little styrofoam thing either. I told her to take the top off and wipe the windows off and put the top back on. It is going to jump back up isn't it?
seems like you gave her good advice.
 
humidity is going to jump way up in a small incubator with hatching chicks it does that to me every time as well, this time I tried to keep my lockdown humidity lower by not adding as much water and it did help a little, but my windows are still full of condensation and I cannot see in well. That happens because the hatching chicks and the insides of the shells are wet and it adds all that water to the air. I do not nor would I take the top off to wipe down the water, you could lose too much humidity and end up losing some of the remaining chicks to sticky chick. I have not had any ill effect from the higher humidity during lockdown.
 

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