Incubators Anonymous

[Tammy N]

Experienced hatchers I need advice!!!!

I got some eggs in the mail today and they were the DIRTIEST eggs I have ever seen! My hens have never laid eggs with that much poo on them and I have never received mail order eggs that literally had excrement caked to them!

After 30 min of gently brushing with a dry sponge, I got some off, but they still have poop all over them. (Photo is an AFTER photo!!!!)

Is it okay to even incubate these? I know eggs are porous and blood rings comes from bacteria in the egg. I have other (expensive!) eggs going in (Isbar, Blue Favorelles, Marraduna Basque) and I was wondering if they we be at risk for putting such dirty eggs in with them. It seems like adding poop to an incubator would be a playground of bacteria!!!

Input???

I have seen Much worse from washington trust me these are not bad at all looks like a hen or 2 with wet feet Also who knows i added chicks and eggs to my flock and got GM , Its a roulet game always ask questions from now on all my eggs get dipped in TYLAN or OXINE

 

[Tammy N]

so it is official. i have shut the incubator down tried for several months and didn't have a single egg make it to hatch, most never developed some died early on alot died at about day 12. very disappointed. maybe next spring now that we have a new rooster and have divided the flock into 2 seperate flocks

Coffey Dont cry Please tell me are these bought eggs or your own chicken eggs ?

 

[coffeychicks]

They are our own eggs. Refused to buy eggs until I figured it all out.

 

[DMRippy]

Experienced hatchers I need advice!!!! I got some eggs in the mail today and they were the DIRTIEST eggs I have ever seen! My hens have never laid eggs with that much poo on them and I have never received mail order eggs that literally had excrement caked to them! After 30 min of gently brushing with a dry sponge, I got some off, but they still have poop all over them. (Photo is an AFTER photo!!!!) Is it okay to even incubate these? I know eggs are porous and blood rings comes from bacteria in the egg. I have other (expensive!) eggs going in (Isbar, Blue Favorelles, Marraduna Basque) and I was wondering if they we be at risk for putting such dirty eggs in with them. It seems like adding poop to an incubator would be a playground of bacteria!!! Input???

I have seen Much worse from washington trust me these are not bad at all looks like a hen or 2 with wet feet Also who knows i added chicks and eggs to my flock and got GM , Its a roulet game always ask questions from now on all my eggs get dipped in TYLAN or OXINE

neither Tylan nor oxine will prevent GM that is transferred from parents to the chicks via the genetics in the egg. they might prevent some other issues but not that one. let me say that another way NOTHING WILL PREVENT GM IN HATCHING EGGS.

 

[ki4got]

neither Tylan nor oxine will prevent GM that is transferred from parents to the chicks via the genetics in the egg. they might prevent some other issues but not that one.

let me say that another way NOTHING WILL PREVENT GM IN HATCHING EGGS.

actually, it's MG... Mycoplasma gallisepticum

and you are correct, it is passed through the egg as well.

 

[DMRippy]

neither Tylan nor oxine will prevent GM that is transferred from parents to the chicks via the genetics in the egg. they might prevent some other issues but not that one.


let me say that another way NOTHING WILL PREVENT GM IN HATCHING EGGS.

actually, it's MG...  Mycoplasma gallisepticum

and you are correct, it is passed through the egg as well.

i kept thinking that is not right but didn't look it up....thanks.

 

[dutchbunny83]

What's MG?

I was under the impression if you hatched eggs yourself it couldn't carry disease from parents which is why I opt to buy and hatch eggs versus buying chicks from someone as I am super paranoid about biosecurity.
Ideally I would grow my own eggs to hatch but I live in town so keeping roosters is a no no.

And how is it spread, genetically to the offspring, or is it contamination getting into the shell through excrement, exposure, etc...

 

[ozexpat]

neither Tylan nor oxine will prevent GM that is transferred from parents to the chicks via the genetics in the egg. they might prevent some other issues but not that one.

let me say that another way NOTHING WILL PREVENT GM IN HATCHING EGGS.

actually, it's MG... Mycoplasma gallisepticum

and you are correct, it is passed through the egg as well.

Although this disease transmits vertically, it can be prevented with vaccine. Its not cheap at around 100 dollars but it will do 1000 doses.

http://www.jefferspet.com/mg-bac/camid/LIV/cp/F7-J8/cn/3501/

MG-BAC

Zoetis
Mycoplasma Gallisepticum Bacterin
For Veterinary Use Only
For the subcutaneous or intramuscular vaccination of chickens and turkeys as an aid in the prevention of clinical signs associated with Mycoplasma gallisepticum infection.
DOSE: Inject 0.5 mL (0.5 cc) subcutaneously (in the lower neck region) for birds 1 to 10 weeks of age using aseptic technique. For birds 10 weeks of age or older, may vaccinate intramuscularly or subcutaneously. Vaccinate only healthy birds prior to field exposure. The vaccination program should be completed prior to the point of lay. For optimum results, vaccinate twice, allowing at least 4 weeks between vaccinations. Revaccinate birds during molt before the second laying period.

 

[ki4got]

What's MG?

I was under the impression if you hatched eggs yourself it couldn't carry disease from parents which is why I opt to buy and hatch eggs versus buying chicks from someone as I am super paranoid about biosecurity.
Ideally I would grow my own eggs to hatch but I live in town so keeping roosters is a no no.

And how is it spread, genetically to the offspring, or is it contamination getting into the shell through excrement, exposure, etc...

it's a bacteria...

it's passed into the egg when the hen deposits everything in, prior to putting the shell on it. it's not genetic, it's just carried in bodily fluids. which are used to fill an egg.

 

[ki4got]

Although this disease transmits vertically, it can be prevented with vaccine. Its not cheap at around 100 dollars but it will do 1000 doses.

http://www.jefferspet.com/mg-bac/camid/LIV/cp/F7-J8/cn/3501/

MG-BAC

Zoetis
Mycoplasma Gallisepticum Bacterin
For Veterinary Use Only
For the subcutaneous or intramuscular vaccination of chickens and turkeys as an aid in the prevention of clinical signs associated with Mycoplasma gallisepticum infection.
DOSE: Inject 0.5 mL (0.5 cc) subcutaneously (in the lower neck region) for birds 1 to 10 weeks of age using aseptic technique. For birds 10 weeks of age or older, may vaccinate intramuscularly or subcutaneously. Vaccinate only healthy birds prior to field exposure. The vaccination program should be completed prior to the point of lay. For optimum results, vaccinate twice, allowing at least 4 weeks between vaccinations. Revaccinate birds during molt before the second laying period.

except for one thing... http://www.drugs.com/vet/mycoplasma-gallisepticum-vaccine.html
under "Precautions" states clearly Do not use in breeders.

it's a modified live virus which will give the birds a modified version of the disease. the immunity they build against this version also works against the more virulent types, but they are still carriers of the modified version now, which can transmit to their eggs/chicks. whether it causes other problems with fertility or development I don't know.

or... *tinfoil hat time* maybe that immunity is passed to the offspring, just as MG does, so the pharmaceutical companies say don't use on breeders, because then they won't ever sell more. LOL