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Do i need to cover the buckets with a lid? I would like to try it with cracked corn since that is all i have right now. Just put corn in bucket and cover with water and stir. Let sit for couple of days and it should be ready?
Here's my version of the very long fermenting thread. Buckets are free, food grade, at most of your walmart, meijer, Kroger etc.. Just ask at the deli or bakery for their empty buckets... If they don't have any, check another store. Soo not paying for something the stores throw away! Its what works for me, but tweak it as you find what works for you! Main things are.. stir it, keep it warm, replace the grains daily..I am using cracked corn too, to keep my ferment going, its the cheapest right now. I have used scratch, and even wild bird seed depending on whats available and has good grains. I added UNPASTEURIZED Apple Cider Vinegar to my first batch. You can find it at Walmart (Heinz) and several other groceries. Bragg's, vita-cost, there's a bunch of them out there. filled the bucket 1/2 full with the grains, Add a "glug"maybe 1/4 cup true measure of the ACV. added lukewarm water an inch or 2 from the top. You need the unpasteurized with the "mother" to get a fast start. I keep mine in a 5 gallon frosting bucket i got free from meijer bakery. lids don't matter, you can use a towel or cheesecloth to keep things out of it. You want an "airy" cover, don't seal it tight if you do get a lid. Stir maybe 2x a day, more if you think of it...by the 3rd day, you will see grey film, almost looks like a spiderweb on top. The film is the "mother" and that's what you need! Stir it in! Yeast won't give you the probotics. and you can do it with just the grain but it takes a month or longer to get it going. keep it in a warmer room. My stuff is in the laundry room by the furnace, stays about 75 degrees or so. Once the ferment is active, use the liquid to start your feeds. I have the same bucket going since august, give my birds about 3 cups of the fermented seed with the liquid and match the layer feed at 9 cups, (3:1) using a 2 gallon bucket. top off with water just above the level of the feed and stir. I use 2 - 2 gallon buckets so the feed will ferment a day before its fed out.
I set up my feed buckets for all the critters a day ahead. ( for me, that's a total of 10 buckets plus the FF grain makes 11) The pigs get 5 gal of feed, 1/2 gal of FF to 2 gal hog feed. alpaca, 1/4 cup ferment to 3 cup feed. the birds all get 3 to 1. Cats and dog etc.. I just watch and see how they look, feel their sides and check them all every few days. Even my most spindly looking barn cat is a chub now, and her coat shines, She has filled in well and isn't bony anymore. Its made a difference in all of the animals I have. Pigs still have some odors, but even the chicken poop boards and poop patrol for my dog doesn't gag me! I spend a lot less on feed now, use less, and save trips to the co-op. Hope this helps! Its really easy once you get started, I just have a lot of different animals here so its a little more involved for me.
 
Here's my version of the very long fermenting thread. Buckets are free, food grade, at most of your walmart, meijer, Kroger etc.. Just ask at the deli or bakery for their empty buckets... If they don't have any, check another store. Soo not paying for something the stores throw away! Its what works for me, but tweak it as you find what works for you! Main things are.. stir it, keep it warm, replace the grains daily..I am using cracked corn too, to keep my ferment going, its the cheapest right now. I have used scratch, and even wild bird seed depending on whats available and has good grains. I added UNPASTEURIZED Apple Cider Vinegar to my first batch. You can find it at Walmart (Heinz) and several other groceries. Bragg's, vita-cost, there's a bunch of them out there. filled the bucket 1/2 full with the grains, Add a "glug"maybe 1/4 cup true measure of the ACV. added lukewarm water an inch or 2 from the top. You need the unpasteurized with the "mother" to get a fast start. I keep mine in a 5 gallon frosting bucket i got free from meijer bakery. lids don't matter, you can use a towel or cheesecloth to keep things out of it. You want an "airy" cover, don't seal it tight if you do get a lid. Stir maybe 2x a day, more if you think of it...by the 3rd day, you will see grey film, almost looks like a spiderweb on top. The film is the "mother" and that's what you need! Stir it in! Yeast won't give you the probotics. and you can do it with just the grain but it takes a month or longer to get it going. keep it in a warmer room. My stuff is in the laundry room by the furnace, stays about 75 degrees or so. Once the ferment is active, use the liquid to start your feeds. I have the same bucket going since august, give my birds about 3 cups of the fermented seed with the liquid and match the layer feed at 9 cups, (3:1) using a 2 gallon bucket. top off with water just above the level of the feed and stir. I use 2 - 2 gallon buckets so the feed will ferment a day before its fed out.
I set up my feed buckets for all the critters a day ahead. ( for me, that's a total of 10 buckets plus the FF grain makes 11) The pigs get 5 gal of feed, 1/2 gal of FF to 2 gal hog feed. alpaca, 1/4 cup ferment to 3 cup feed. the birds all get 3 to 1. Cats and dog etc.. I just watch and see how they look, feel their sides and check them all every few days. Even my most spindly looking barn cat is a chub now, and her coat shines, She has filled in well and isn't bony anymore. Its made a difference in all of the animals I have. Pigs still have some odors, but even the chicken poop boards and poop patrol for my dog doesn't gag me! I spend a lot less on feed now, use less, and save trips to the co-op. Hope this helps! Its really easy once you get started, I just have a lot of different animals here so its a little more involved for me.

Thanks for taking your time to post this. i will try that. I have tons of five gallon buckets already.
 
Let me get this straight If I ferment 1 bucket of feed I take the water off the top and put it in a new bucket of feed and ad more water? and I add the fermented with fresh food and feed to all my crittters????

Yes, The grains are good for the birds, and the ferment juice is what starts the other feeds fermentation. I have so many buckets because of the different types of animals have different feed needs.
If you just have birds, then you can just do the 3:1 (3 - feed to 1- grain ferment.) You can just ferment straight feeds, but it takes bigger buckets (for me at least). If you ferment straight feed, always leave at least a cup of the FF to start fermenting in the new batch you mix up. Hope that makes sense, I am terrible at explaining things
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. I use 2 buckets for the feed i ferment. Day one i use bucket A. Refill that bucket to start a new ferment. day 2 bucket B. refill that one to start new. The next day, bucket A is nicely fermenting, and i just keep repeating the rotation. That way you give the FF time to allow it to "cook" creating the probotics that's helping your birds.
ETA: The bigger buckets would solve the rotation problem, but I am small, 5ft, about 100lbs.. 5 gallons of wet feed is too heavy for me to move around a lot.
 
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Where are good places to pick up buckets? I really need to try this.

I have RIR and some Cali Whites ( leghorn hybrid supposed to be mellow and they are ). I am thinking of some Barred Rocks and maybe a few polish for the flock in the spring.
 
Where are good places to pick up buckets? I really need to try this.

I have RIR and some Cali Whites ( leghorn hybrid supposed to be mellow and they are ). I am thinking of some Barred Rocks and maybe a few polish for the flock in the spring.

the quickest way is to go to your local farm store, like Big R or Tractor Supply or even your home improvement stores. They are cheap to buy. or you can go to your local grochery store and ask for some in the deli section. Hope this helps
 
Where are good places to pick up buckets? I really need to try this.

I have RIR and some Cali Whites ( leghorn hybrid supposed to be mellow and they are ). I am thinking of some Barred Rocks and maybe a few polish for the flock in the spring.

grocery stores that have a bakery and bakeries icing and frosting (for cakes and doughnuts) comes in 3 and 5 gallon buckets ask at the bakery departments. I know of one pizza place that serves cinnamon rolls and 2 or 3 kinds of dessert pizzas that use icing and they wash their buckets and leave a dozen or so buckets in the entrance area so customers can grab them if they want them and not bother the employees esp. during the lunch and dinner rush (it's Mr. Gatti's in Martinsville). try regular bakeries and doughnut shops also. Rural king sells buckets (also they sell burlap bags and steel drums). I live south of you in northern Monroe county so Martinsville is as close to shop as Bloomington. So try Kroger and walmart.
 
Where are good places to pick up buckets? I really need to try this.

I have RIR and some Cali Whites ( leghorn hybrid supposed to be mellow and they are ). I am thinking of some Barred Rocks and maybe a few polish for the flock in the spring.

Go to one of the grocery stores, like payless, kroger, marsh. ask for them at the deli or bakery. they are free, they just toss them out,
ETA oops, sounds like we all answered at the same time!
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I am building a bigger brooder tomorrow. All 16 baby chickies are doing great, and eating like little piggies! I have a breezeway between the houses that is enclosed and heated. Large area they can still be warm, but will give them more shoulder room. Hope to do pics tomorrow once its done
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