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[Kiniska]

thanks all, yep its amazing how money can make a difference, now that his checks have started it feels like someone took 100 lbs off me and DH aint so grumpy!!!! Rural King's chicks are all mixed up. they don't know what some of them are... or they just put the tags in the wrong place.... I know I shouldn't have done it but my heart is bigger then DH's wallet, in the ISA Browns brooder they had 4 chicks that were being eaten alive by the rest. So I threw a fit and had someone paged to come help and I was going to take the poor little ones home, NO ONE SHOWED and we waited 10 minutes... I got them out myself and boxed them up then DH told me that they had Lt. Brahma's and that is his favorite chicken in the world... next to Big Man... lol so we ended up taking 3 of them home too they had a group of Arucana's to 2 of them had ear muffs and beards I almost took them but they weren't acting very good and I already have my charity chicks... besides I didn't want to take something home to the rest of the chicks. I really didn't want the browns but what was I to do? I couldn't just leave. anyway I took them to the checkout and told the woman I wanted a discount on the injured chicks and she tried to tell me that " THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS CALLED "PASTY BUTT" I sat her straight and let her know I wasn't a complete dumb butt!!!! and I got them for .50 each. so now if they don't make it I'm not out butt 2.00 there was 4 and I took all the injured ones. Now I have to figure out how to treat them... ???? I have 2 with the same wing injury and 2 with the same tail injury. I have put triple anti-bio tic on them, and other ideals?

Use blue kote on them. It will mask the injured spots and help the healing.

 

[chick rookie]

I love them! I can't wait until you decide which you are keeping! I'll take two of your extras!

It may have been me with the feeders. Here is what I am going to build to stop the birds.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/building-a-treadle-chicken-feeder

those are the ones... did you say you were going to sell some for 35.00 if you did I want 2.

Question for those of you with goats--can dwarf/ Pygmy goats be house trained? Has anybody had or heard of having them in the house as pets?

Pygmy goats can be house trined. It is harder then dogs but can be done I know a few that have done it, 1 even trained hers to use a giant litter box...

 

[CCCCCCCCHICKENS]

thanks all, yep its amazing how money can make a difference, now that his checks have started it feels like someone took 100 lbs off me and DH aint so grumpy!!!!
Rural King's chicks are all mixed up. they don't know what some of them are... or they just put the tags in the wrong place....
I know I shouldn't have done it but my heart is bigger then DH's wallet, in the ISA Browns brooder they had 4 chicks that were being eaten alive by the rest. So I threw a fit and had someone paged to come help and I was going to take the poor little ones home, NO ONE SHOWED and we waited 10 minutes... I got them out myself and boxed them up then DH told me that they had Lt. Brahma's and that is his favorite chicken in the world... next to Big Man... lol so we ended up taking 3 of them home too they had a group of Arucana's to 2 of them had ear muffs and beards I almost took them but they weren't acting very good and I already have my charity chicks... besides I didn't want to take something home to the rest of the chicks.
I really didn't want the browns but what was I to do? I couldn't just leave. anyway I took them to the checkout and told the woman I wanted a discount on the injured chicks and she tried to tell me that " THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS CALLED "PASTY BUTT" I sat her straight and let her know I wasn't a complete dumb butt!!!! and I got them for .50 each. so now if they don't make it I'm not out butt 2.00 there was 4 and I took all the injured ones.
Now I have to figure out how to treat them... ????



I have 2 with the same wing injury and 2 with the same tail injury. I have put triple anti-bio tic on them, and other ideals?

95% of the workers at the farm stores don't have a clue. The rural king I go to has a bunch of rude idiots working for them, so I just do everything myself. I get them and box them myself, I have have for other people. I have had people ask my about their "americana/araucanas" so of course I had to go on my whole rant about that. I have even removed dead chicks from the troughs. I tried to get a worker, but they were "busy". Hello people! How do think a parent is going to explain that to their little kids, when they ask them what is wrong with the chick, laying on the ground lifeless? I would feel bad, even though it isn't m responsibility, I don't work there, They should pay me lol. I make sure I haven't been in the barn and never where my tennis shoes out there so they don't have to worry about spreading disease. I have brought home sick chicks too. They won't take care of it and someone that doesn't have a clue will likely buy them and they will die, so I feel like I need to buy them. I haven't ever got a discount on chicks. I did get an argument, because I didn't get the minimum, i have chicks at home and they will be fine. They told me that they need each other body heat, not if you have a heat lamp. Did she really think i was going to sit them in a box at home without a supplement source of heat? They would die. If they knew they had pasty butt, why didn't they take care of it? thats what gets me. Sorry about my whole rant, but they really need to hire some smart people. I don't even go to the TSC in decatur anymore. Poor chick in the second picture! I hope you get them all taken care of. How great of you to take them home, most people wouldn't care about them.

 

[ChickCrazed]

those are the ones... did you say you were going to sell some for 35.00 if you did I want 2.
Pygmy goats can be house trined. It is harder then dogs but can be done I know a few that have done it, 1 even trained hers to use a giant litter box...

Good for you for bringing them home! I would have done the same thing. At least you will try and care for them, the poor things.

I will have to price the materials for the treadle feeder, the person who built the original estimated $35 for materials, but I think that was a year or two ago and you know how prices for materials rise! It might be a couple weeks before I can get my truck out and to the store so let me know if you decide to have DH help you build them (they don't look too terribly difficult and I bet you two could knock them out while he is home once he is able to sit up to help). I'll PM you once I figure out what they will cost to make and you can let me know!

My Rural King had chicks last weekend but I stayed strong (I did look though, the EEs almost got me and if there had been cochins I would have been sunk!). Really I stayed realistic since I have chicks coming in the next 3 or 4 weeks, but don't really know when they will arrive. I can't deal with 3 different sets of different aged chicks, not enough brooders and not enough of me to go around to another set! I am hoping to move my Marans out to the garage on Tuesday. It should be around 50 in my garage but will drop to around 40 at night. Their room has been in the low 60's and they are off heat. They are mostly feathered (they are about 6 weeks old). Do you guys think they will be ok? They really need more space, so I need to get them out there.

 

[Leahs Mom]

Mealworms are easy.

Waterers
For a large flock, I am using a 55 gallon drum, cut down to about 8-10" standing upright, and put a stock tank heater in it.
No more frozen water. I covered it with 2x4 hardware cloth so no one drowns, or swims.
This has been a huge help and is really working out great. It sits outside in the run.
I will build a 2nd one for the waterfowl very soon. The heater is $25 at RK or TSC, they can handle up to 1500 gallons.
I chose the submerged one. I was carrying around 20 gallons a day, so I had to come up with something better.

Could we see a photo of your waterer from all angles... And could you photo your mealworm bins? How big/deep are they? How deep do you layer the feed in them, etc.

 

[Leahs Mom]

First of all

A long time ago I quit going into pet stores that sold puppies and the like because seeing the conditions just made me

I would have been

to see that in the store. Did you notice that I'd be

Anyhow, there is a product that really does well on injuries and heals them up very quickly. I've never been able to find it locally and have had to order online. It has a very strong smell, but it works well, is anti-fungal and anti-bacterial. I got it, scooped it out of the tube into a small canning jar, and keep it in my chicken first aid kit. It's worth having around even though it does stink. It works very well on almost any skin injury, on the vent if there gleet, etc. It seriously starts the healing process very quickly and is almost like a miracle. It is most often used for hot spots on horses, dogs, etc.

I really like having it around for just such an situation as you find yourself in...or any injury.

NuStock http://www.amazon.com/Durvet-001-05...=UTF8&qid=1392510321&sr=8-1&keywords=nu-stock

The other thing that may sound strange... Coconut Oil. It is also anti-fungal/anti bacterial in a more natural form and the oil does wonders to heal the skin. Have to put it on more frequently than the Nustock and doesn't show the extremely miraculous-quick healing that the NuStock does but it does a pretty good job all on it's own.

 

[ChickCrazed]

First of all

A long time ago I quit going into pet stores that sold puppies and the like because seeing the conditions just made me

I would have been

to see that in the store. Did you notice that I'd be

Anyhow, there is a product that really does well on injuries and heals them up very quickly. I've never been able to find it locally and have had to order online. It has a very strong smell, but it works well, is anti-fungal and anti-bacterial. I got it, scooped it out of the tube into a small canning jar, and keep it in my chicken first aid kit. It's worth having around even though it does stink. It works very well on almost any skin injury, on the vent if there gleet, etc. It seriously starts the healing process very quickly and is almost like a miracle. It is most often used for hot spots on horses, dogs, etc.

I really like having it around for just such an situation as you find yourself in...or any injury.

NuStock http://www.amazon.com/Durvet-001-05...=UTF8&qid=1392510321&sr=8-1&keywords=nu-stock

The other thing that may sound strange... Coconut Oil. It is also anti-fungal/anti bacterial in a more natural form and the oil does wonders to heal the skin. Have to put it on more frequently than the Nustock and doesn't show the extremely miraculous-quick healing that the NuStock does but it does a pretty good job all on it's own.

Is that giant red spot from getting pecked? Why does that happen? Is it because of overcrowding? Just wondering why a baby animal would so viciously attach another! Seems young for such vicious behavior!

 

[Leahs Mom]

Could be a few reasons.

There may have been something on the chick that drew attention and they will start pecking at it. Once they draw blood they keep on going. Sometimes there is a pasty bottom and they start picking on that and keep going from there.

Sometimes it starts because of over-crowding and boredom.

Sometimes it's a weak/sickly chick that won't peck the more agressive chicks back and are taken out because they're an easy target. In "nature" a weak or sickly chick would be dangerous to the well-being of the flock and attract predators so it is a way to remove the "weak link" so to speak.

Once they get a taste of blood it's hard to stop that cycle since they don't get "animal/insect" protein in "modern" feeds. They're designed to eat the meat/insects, and once they get that taste of the meat they just keep on going.

 

[ChickCrazed]

Could be a few reasons.

There may have been something on the chick that drew attention and they will start pecking at it. Once they draw blood they keep on going. Sometimes there is a pasty bottom and they start picking on that and keep going from there.

Sometimes it starts because of over-crowding and boredom.

Sometimes it's a weak/sickly chick that won't peck the more agressive chicks back and are taken out because they're an easy target. In "nature" a weak or sickly chick would be dangerous to the well-being of the flock and attract predators so it is a way to remove the "weak link" so to speak.

Once they get a taste of blood it's hard to stop that cycle since they don't get "animal/insect" protein in "modern" feeds. They're designed to eat the meat/insects, and once they get that taste of the meat they just keep on going.

Yikes! Good to know for the future! Someone should contact Rural King corporate and complain about that store. They should have someone knowledgeable there and monitoring the babies closely or should be reported for not caring for the animals. This should not happen

 

[chick rookie]

95% of the workers at the farm stores don't have a clue. The rural king I go to has a bunch of rude idiots working for them, so I just do everything myself. I get them and box them myself, I have have for other people. I have had people ask my about their "americana/araucanas" so of course I had to go on my whole rant about that. I have even removed dead chicks from the troughs. I tried to get a worker, but they were "busy". Hello people! How do think a parent is going to explain that to their little kids, when they ask them what is wrong with the chick, laying on the ground lifeless? I would feel bad, even though it isn't m responsibility, I don't work there, They should pay me lol. I make sure I haven't been in the barn and never where my tennis shoes out there so they don't have to worry about spreading disease. I have brought home sick chicks too. They won't take care of it and someone that doesn't have a clue will likely buy them and they will die, so I feel like I need to buy them. I haven't ever got a discount on chicks. I did get an argument, because I didn't get the minimum, i have chicks at home and they will be fine. They told me that they need each other body heat, not if you have a heat lamp. Did she really think i was going to sit them in a box at home without a supplement source of heat? They would die. If they knew they had pasty butt, why didn't they take care of it? thats what gets me. Sorry about my whole rant, but they really need to hire some smart people. I don't even go to the TSC in decatur anymore. Poor chick in the second picture! I hope you get them all taken care of. How great of you to take them home, most people wouldn't care about them.

oh don't worry... I rant and rave all the time about RK. the only reason I was in there today was for meal worm treats for the kids. I have live ones but not ready to be feed for treats yet. DH says that is my problem... I care too much and that's one reason he has to build a addition and a whole new coop... lol
I agree... they need some people that know " a little bit of what they are talking about anyway " ... but that's not going to happen.

Good for you for bringing them home! I would have done the same thing. At least you will try and care for them, the poor things.

I will have to price the materials for the treadle feeder, the person who built the original estimated $35 for materials, but I think that was a year or two ago and you know how prices for materials rise! It might be a couple weeks before I can get my truck out and to the store so let me know if you decide to have DH help you build them (they don't look too terribly difficult and I bet you two could knock them out while he is home once he is able to sit up to help). I'll PM you once I figure out what they will cost to make and you can let me know!

My Rural King had chicks last weekend but I stayed strong (I did look though, the EEs almost got me and if there had been cochins I would have been sunk!). Really I stayed realistic since I have chicks coming in the next 3 or 4 weeks, but don't really know when they will arrive. I can't deal with 3 different sets of different aged chicks, not enough brooders and not enough of me to go around to another set! I am hoping to move my Marans out to the garage on Tuesday. It should be around 50 in my garage but will drop to around 40 at night. Their room has been in the low 60's and they are off heat. They are mostly feathered (they are about 6 weeks old). Do you guys think they will be ok? They really need more space, so I need to get them out there.

Just couldn't turn my back on them it was hard enough to leave the " Arucana's "
ok let me know what you find out about the feeders. I'll let you know if DH gets feeling like building a couple before you start building.

First of all

A long time ago I quit going into pet stores that sold puppies and the like because seeing the conditions just made me

I would have been

to see that in the store. Did you notice that I'd be

Anyhow, there is a product that really does well on injuries and heals them up very quickly. I've never been able to find it locally and have had to order online. It has a very strong smell, but it works well, is anti-fungal and anti-bacterial. I got it, scooped it out of the tube into a small canning jar, and keep it in my chicken first aid kit. It's worth having around even though it does stink. It works very well on almost any skin injury, on the vent if there gleet, etc. It seriously starts the healing process very quickly and is almost like a miracle. It is most often used for hot spots on horses, dogs, etc.

I really like having it around for just such an situation as you find yourself in...or any injury.

NuStock http://www.amazon.com/Durvet-001-05...=UTF8&qid=1392510321&sr=8-1&keywords=nu-stock

The other thing that may sound strange... Coconut Oil. It is also anti-fungal/anti bacterial in a more natural form and the oil does wonders to heal the skin. Have to put it on more frequently than the Nustock and doesn't show the extremely miraculous-quick healing that the NuStock does but it does a pretty good job all on it's own.

I have been hearing alot about that Nustock need to find me some and try it. in the mean time going to use blue kote cause I have that on hand.

Use blue kote on them. It will mask the injured spots and help the healing.

put some on a while ago. I had forgotten about that, and I use it on goats and horses all the time.