I think I may be in love too! That 2nd pic reminds me of a Dorking you posted a while back. (She'he has the same "chicken therapist" look.)
Oh, my, that was a while ago! I believe this is the picture you're thinking of? Miss Elly at under a year old. I can hardly believe I'm saying this, but she'll be 3 this year!

Abra (the Silkied Cochin baby) has a lot of the same traits, but she's a lot sassier. It comes from being a bantam Cochin, I think. All the sweetness of the large Cochins with twice the attitude!


The similarity is rather uncanny, though, isn't it?
The Barnevelder is a Barnevelder and is seen in an ad which is plainly for Barnevelders that mentions the seller also has BT Araucanas. A specimen can be a poor quality specimen and, nevertheless, be a specimen of a given breed. The two in the oldest BT ads (for two roosters) were mixes and identified as such in at least one posting of that ad. Sometimes muffs and beards get pulled out, sometimes birds were heterozygous and produce clean-faced sports. $15 is not exactly what Greenfire Farms would be selling said imports for, so I'll assume said birds are mixes or poor quality or the seller is just desperate to get rid of a bird. He may be an F# outcross for the intent of improving this or that trait in the breed, which kind of has a tiny gene pool in the States (ie, prone to inbreeding and poor specimens being reserved for breeding in a program just to churn out more chicks), and either of these easy explanations can pretty well apply to said birds in all photos. To improve crests and/or beards, Polish or CCL might very well be used.
Not all people prefer Silkies or Polish with beards either, so I figure it's largely up to breeders. I don't prefer bearded birds, and I'm not showing this unshowable breed anyway, so the presence of said birds on craigslist for under $20 certainly isn't going to offend me. I'm far more offended by people who want $100 for PQ (at best) Serama hatchlings and that kind of crazy crap. Or game breeders with crummy looking birds for sale at exorbitant prices. Or hoarders. Or neglect.
Not disagreeing, I was just saying that the lacing on that Barnevelder is, well, not great, to say the least...
Also not disagreeing that a poor quality specimen is still technically a specimen of the breed, but it's like the hatchery Rhode Island Reds that were being talked about a few pages back. At a certain point, the quality is so poor that it hardly represents what the breed should be. And any good breeder would say as much, or at least mention that the bird is not good quality, certainly not claiming that he is 'good looking' when he barely looks like the breed they're claiming him to be. Same goes for a throwback to an outcross. You just don't advertise those as the real deal unless you don't know what you're talking about. There are plenty of instances of, for example, Silver Ameraucanas being crossed to Black Ameraucanas to improve on size and type, but the early F# crosses, and even later ones that show leakage or inappropriate coloration, are NOT sold as the real deal--even though for all purposes, they are pure Ameraucanas! That's simply dishonest, especially when you're claiming said bird to be a 'good looking' specimen. I stand by what I said, those birds are either very poor quality or they're mixed breeds. Maybe the people who posted that ad don't know any better, as is the case for the thousands of 'Americaunas' and 'Aracaunas' and 'Americana / Aracanas' that are still being sold by backyard breeders who have no clue of what a true Araucana or Ameraucana looks like, but that still doesn't make it an accurate representative of the breed.
As for the two back in January, the reason why I keep saying they look like Polish x Easter-eggers is because there is no reason to believe there's any kind of British Tailed Araucana in their mix. The person didn't mention the words 'British' or 'Tailed' at all in the ad, just 'Araucana', which as you know is a name commonly tacked on to feed store Easter-eggers. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that they got 'Araucanas' from the feed store and crossed those with Polish to get those birds. That's all I'm saying there.
I said no offense meant because I didn't mean to offend with anything I said, and same goes with this post. Well, and I have no spine.

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