So with out going back and trying to find the posts again, what do you recommend for growing chicks? I may just have to go back to zip ties. But I just hate those things!If you need bigger ones, the dollar places sell some for young girls hair. They are larger than the tiny ebay ones and they stretch a bit more. They are not as sturdy as the ebay ones though. Still I had issues with the ebay ones. If you like them (ebay ones) and want more, I'll mail you mine. They are tiny though maybe good for quail but the large fowl chicks grow out of them too fast for me.