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I have done both ways but they seem to like the cooked sooooo much better! To me it would be like the difference of eating a bowl of flour or a fresh loaf of bread. Lol I think I'd rather have it cooked!
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Great information! I wonder if the product is still available.I love my buckeye , they are my favorites, Friendliest chickens I've ever seen.Congrats on the cochins. I had to shovels paths again, so sick of winter. !!Beautiful breeds, I'm sure you'll love them.Woohoo! I will take one of your cast offs. I don't need breeding quality.I'm flexible on timing also so whenever you decide that one is unfit to breed I can take it - I just ask that we make sure it is a pullet this time! I have bad roo luck with cochins (although they are so sweet I can't entirely be mad about it). I just placed an order for Bielefelders and Blue Isbars! They will be coming in March and they will be my first possible breeding endeavor! I've done a ton of research on them and can't wait! Bielefelders have been called the “über chicken” due to their German engineering. Bielefelder chickens sport many desirable features such as being very docile, a dual purpose breed and auto sexing. The dual purpose comes from their large size and their egg laying production. The Bielefelder hens lay upwards of 200 eggs per year. Bielefelder roosters have a claimed weight of 10-12 pounds. They are not flighty and welcome human interaction. Even to the point of being jealous of attention from children.
Blue Isbar! The Isbar is a cold-hardy breed which produces 150 to 200 eggs per year that come in a variety of shades of solid green or spotted green. The Isbar is the only green-egg-laying single combed chicken breed in the world today. The most beautiful and sought after variety of Isbar is the Blue Isbar, of which there are fewer than one hundred remaining in the world.
LOL !!!I picked up this silly magnet, from a local artist, down in Nola. Its been on my fridge for years and today I looked at it and saw it in a slightly different light. It also made me think about all this culling talk we've been having! Anyways, I think all sides will get a kick out of this.My DH is a Pescatarian, but I am full omnivore. I don't plan on eating my chickens, but I'm not against it either. That's all I have to say about that subject... I love how everyone here has different husbandry practices, but respects each other. Kudos, keep up all the thoughtfully written advice and remember if chickens were bigger than humans, they wouldn't hesitant to turn us into a meal.
Starling are my problem , also, Hate the nasty things !!!Wild bird update. The plastic was a fail. I put tarps all the way around the coop and they somehow still got in, but I am thinking there were fewer of them. I plugged a few more holes and the number went down even more. I did finally identify the jerkwads. They are starlings!!! So now the enemy has a name! Also, as the number in the coop started going down the number in the horse barn went up.....I stopped at home depot and am now armed with more supplies. The weather is supposed to get up to a balmy 26 degrees on Saturday so I am planning the final battle for that day. If my newly reinforced run still lets them in I am going to have to look at trapping them or doing something unsavory, which I don't want to do. Also, I am going to be looking at getting the nipple waterers (with the cups) as soon as it is warm enough. Has anyone trained older birds on those? How did you do it?
Sure you'll love it !! Happy Hatching !!I saved this article, Sorry didn't save the link and don't remember where I got it. But I've used the oxine and it works great. So everyone having, sickness, might give it a try. ~~But I do love it! Since I introduced a product named Oxine AH (Animal Health) to the fancy about four years ago, I have had so many questions about its effectiveness and many uses, that I thought it may be time to put something together that would answer the most popular questions in one place. So, in this article, I’m going to be covering THE MANY USES OF OXINE. I first introduced Oxine as a medicinal treatment for upper respiratory fungal infections, as outlined in the first article I ever wrote for the Poultry Press. Oxine was certainly not anything new at that time, but it was new information to most of the fancy. It had already been used for decades in both the chlorination of municipal drinking water supplies, and was widely used throughout the commercial poultry industry. But few fanciers knew anything about it. I happened to have a duck at the time that was suffering so severely from a respiratory infection that I spoke to a Poultry Research Veterinarian friend of mine about possible treatment experiments, since illnesses such as Aspergillosis were thought of as fatal if severe. He told me about Oxine AH and how successful it had been when used as a nebulizing agent both in poultry and in the equine field. (Nebulizing meant the bird had to breathe the product into its airways.) I had nothing to lose since the duck could barely breathe, so I tried it. I used a Tri-Jet fogger and a solution of 6-1/2 ounces of Oxine to a gallon of water as prescribed, and I ‘fogged’ the bird’s face and cage three times daily for ten days. She was cured. Since then, I have learned quite a bit about this product. Since Oxine is technically a disinfectant and I have over 26 years in the specialty chemical industry, I understood the mechanics of how the product worked from the start. I also understand EPA registrations, USDA, and FDA, so I had access to all of the many applications of the one parent product under various label uses. Oxine is known to kill every bacteria, virus, and mold it has ever been tested against and is 200 times more effective than chlorine bleach. But one of the most impressive things about Oxine for me is that it does it with such relative safety (when used according to label instructions). Environmentally speaking, Oxine actually biodegrades to ordinary table salt. And it is so safe to use on livestock that it is actually approved for use in the drinking water of ‘organically grown’ animals. I use it myself at the rate of 7-15 drops per gallon of water in our stock tank of drinking water for our own sheep. It keeps the water impressively clear and algae free, while keeping down the biofilm ‘slime’ that tends to develop on the sides of the tank. Oxine is used in many commercial operations in the automated drinking lines for poultry. It keeps the bacteria level down in the water lines, prevents biofilm from developing, and keeps the birds healthier by keeping down the pathogen level that could potentially travel form one bird to another. The side benefit for commercial growers is that Oxine makes the drinking water more palatable to the birds and therefore they drink more. This is especially important in layers, but can have a benefit in any operation since it also improves feed conversion. Technically, Oxine Concentrate is a 2% chlorine dioxide gas suspended in an aqueous solution. It is diluted with water to varying degrees depending on how you would like to use it. Since it is a disinfectant and not a drug, it must make direct contact with the pathogen in order to kill it. In the diluted inactivated state, Oxine is perfectly safe to use around both your birds and yourself. Oxine can also be ‘activated’ using citric acid crystals, which ‘release’ more of the available chlorine in the solution, but I highly discourage this method of use within the fancy. If you were to activate the product, it is recommended that you wear a NIOSH approved respirator and you would not be able to fog the solution into any area where the birds are present. Without activation, I am very comfortable with using the product without a respirator or mask, although you should follow whatever precautions you are most comfortable with. Here’s how I use Oxine in my operation (this is simply an example program – you should adapt this to your particular situation since every coop and hatchery is different). I raise both chickens and waterfowl (ducks). I use 1/8 tsp/gallon of water for my ducks’ bath water to keep the bacteria level down and to help prevent bacterial enteritis, since E-Gads, we all know what ducks do in their water besides drink from it. They get a separate small dish (that they won’t fit into) at night before bed with drinking water that I can fortify with vitamins, minerals, and probiotics if I choose – but not with Oxine in it which could kill the beneficial bacteria in the probiotic supplement. I use 1/8 tsp/gallon of water in my chickens’ drinking water every other day to keep down the biofilm (slime) that forms on the inside of the waterers. It also keeps the bacteria level down for when that amazingly accurate missile of a dropping somehow makes it into the drinking water trough every day. (On the opposite days I like to include a combination vitamin, mineral, and probiotic supplement in their water instead.) Since I run a biosecurity program in my showbird coop, I use Oxine to fog the entire inside of the coop (including the birds themselves) once a week. It keeps the dust down and knocks all of the viruses, bacteria, and mold spores out of the air. It also keeps the air fresh smelling in there. Oxine also has a residual disinfecting quality so I try to moisten surfaces such as roosts with the fog as I go. I see no need to remove feed or drinkers form the coop when I fog so the procedure is quite simple. Other possible uses for the product are an egg dip prior to incubation (always using water warmer than the egg and at the rate of 4 oz/gallon of water). In this case, you would simply dip the egg in the solution and lay it on a clean paper towel to air dry – do not rub since that would breach the egg’s cuticle, something which is important to hatching success. You can also use it at the rate of 7 drops/gallon of water in your water reservoir in your incubator, and/or in a humidifier that may be running in a room where you store eggs prior to incubation. Oxine has so many approvals for use in the (human) food industry that they’re too numerous to mention here, but it’s worth noting since it reinforces Oxine’s overall relative safety. You may purchase Oxine through several of the poultry supply houses. A few that I know of are Seven Oaks Game Farm, Smith Poultry, First State Veterinary Supply, Cutler Pheasant Supply, and Aire Solutions, LC. All of the suppliers listed above advertise in the Poultry Press. There may be more and I apologize if I have left them out. If you are a supplier of Oxine and were not mentioned here, then I suggest you advertise that you are in the next issue of the Poultry Press so it becomes known. Also, if you let me know who you are, I would be glad to include you in an amended copy of this article prior to putting it up on my website next month. If you need a fogger and cannot afford the more expensive ones, there is an alternative. It is the Preval Paint Sprayer from www.dickblick.com. It’s a small hand held device that is commonly used when vaccinating poultry against viruses that the birds need to breathe in to become inoculated. The Preval sprayer requires ‘power units’ to work and they can be purchased from Dick Blick as well. Also, Fogmaster makes a ‘Fogmaster Jr.’, which you can view and purchase at www.fogmaster.com. The suppliers of Oxine may also provide fogger options and perhaps some kind of package deal, so I would check that option out as well.
I bought some Oxine to have on the shelf last July. I got it here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HT7H8W/ref=pe_385040_30332190_pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
Be sure you understand the difference between using it ACTIVATED vs. NON-ACTIVATED. It can kill the birds if you use it activated while they are present.
My sister in law just called me because a property she care-takes for has a hand-built chicken shed that the couple are leaving and I think I'm going to get it free if nothing changes. If I do get it, I am going to clean that shed thoroughly and use ACTIVATED Oxine to spray it inside and out before it ever comes on my property.
Thankfully I've never needed to use it (non-activated) around my birds but I liked the idea that it will fight fungus.
I did send some over to a friend that just got chickens this year from a breeder that appears to have been unscrupulous and sold her sick started pullets. She had no idea how to evaluate them and brought home the sick birds not knowing. She put the sickest bird in the garage and tried doing the misting but the bird continued to go downhill and eventually died. (This is one bird that I would have culled about a month before as it was in misery but she was having a hard time making that decision.)
I also know another person who had birds that got a fungal infection and it DID work for them.
Not sure if I'll ever use it that way but I like it as a disinfectant for situations like my "used" chicken coop, etc.
OH..I guess I want to add one more thing about the oxine.
I would definitely NOT use it in waterers and spraying in the hen house on a regular basis.
There is a good bacterial balance that you want to maintain in your deep litter that is very good for the health of the birds and even can add certain of vitamins to their diet that they need. Continually spraying their living environment with this product can change that healthy balance and eventually have the same effect as using antibiotics continually... This kind of use will destroy the HEALTHY bacteria (think probiotics) as well as the bad and can lead to proliferation of "super-bugs" and some very unhealthy living conditions.
I would definitely NOT use it in waterers and spraying in the hen house on a regular basis.
There is a good bacterial balance that you want to maintain in your deep litter that is very good for the health of the birds and even can add certain of vitamins to their diet that they need. Continually spraying their living environment with this product can change that healthy balance and eventually have the same effect as using antibiotics continually... This kind of use will destroy the HEALTHY bacteria (think probiotics) as well as the bad and can lead to proliferation of "super-bugs" and some very unhealthy living conditions.
Just an FYI, Big R has Nutrena layer feed 50# bags on sale for $9.99 and 1 gal plastic waterers for $3.99! I got my 2 weeks worth of feed today and had to get a rain check for the waterers. They must be like Lowes and not check inventory levels BEFORE the sale starts!
Ohh forgot the mention they also had cracked corn for $6.79 per 50# bag. I've never bought just corn, so not sure if that is a good price or not. Just thought I'd add it too.
One last one! Nutrena all flock pellets 50# bag for $12.99
Ohh forgot the mention they also had cracked corn for $6.79 per 50# bag. I've never bought just corn, so not sure if that is a good price or not. Just thought I'd add it too.
One last one! Nutrena all flock pellets 50# bag for $12.99
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Yep, if you google it you can find it all over the place.
here is another link:
http://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/s...-oxine-ah-sanitizer-and-disinfectant-1-gallon
A lot of people use it to sanitize their incubators. Some even dip their eggs it before putting them in the incubator. Something about bacteria getting through the membrane. I know someone posted a link, but if someone posted this info already, sorry, I will admit I skimmed!
here is another link:
http://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/s...-oxine-ah-sanitizer-and-disinfectant-1-gallon
A lot of people use it to sanitize their incubators. Some even dip their eggs it before putting them in the incubator. Something about bacteria getting through the membrane. I know someone posted a link, but if someone posted this info already, sorry, I will admit I skimmed!
Wow! Wish I was closer. That is a good price on corn. How long does the sale last? maybe I could make it over there before it ends
Ends the 17th I believe
Ok, Thanks.
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