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[Leahs Mom]

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Be careful with ceramics. If it isn't CLEARLY STATED, all ceramics have lead in them which is deadly for lead poisoning. You don't see it right away - heavy metal is a build-up killer. Even our crock pot liners are still being made with lead.

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/04/several-months-ago-gerald-omalley/#.U3IOayhWg_c
http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=1135
http://insightfulnana.com/home-garden/housekeeping-home-garden/lead-poisoning-and-crock-pots

I had thought early in the game that the ceramic was a good choice but you just can't get it used. Purchase only if it clearly states NO LEAD and NO CADMIUM.

I actually purchased a set of the little lead tests. You can get them in paint departments. I had an old bench I was going to use in the chicken yard that tested positive for lead in the paint that was on it.... didn't put it in the yard.



Also - with fermented feed you should NEVER use galvanized metal feeders. They contain zinc which will also be leached into the feed due to the high acid content. Same goes for the galvanized metal waterers if you use any ACV in your water. Zinc cal also cause heavy metal poisoning.

Here's an article regarding chickens that only touches on it a little: Lead and Zinc The Hidden Dangers

I used to use the flat stainless steel puppy pans for the chicks which are great BUT too lightweight and tip right over like you are saying. I finally decided to try to convert everything I possibly can to glass and reserve the plastic for situations when I don't have a better solution.

 

[Leahs Mom]

Another article on lead in eggs!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/d...ead-for-new-yorks-garden-fresh-eggs.html?_r=0

 

[ellymayRans]

You can't see it very well but the poo had orangey red blood maybe?

The other blrw is on the way out. Very wobbly when walking, staying down a lot.

The poo doesn't sound or look abnormal either. I'm sorry they are not doing well but perhaps get them a few drops directly of the poly vi sol without iron and separate the few acting off. Clean the brooder out/disinfect and watch. I've had plenty over the years shipped and hatched that even up to a week or two seemed perfectly healthy and then find dead. Sometimes it's just what happens. No known cause or fix.

Might sound odd but perhaps change them over to bottled water. Just a thought. Change the feed.

 

[LonelyPageTurne]

The poo doesn't sound or look abnormal either. I'm sorry they are not doing well but perhaps get them a few drops directly of the poly vi sol without iron and separate the few acting off. Clean the brooder out/disinfect and watch. I've had plenty over the years shipped and hatched that even up to a week or two seemed perfectly healthy and then find dead. Sometimes it's just what happens. No known cause or fix.

Might sound odd but perhaps change them over to bottled water. Just a thought. Change the feed.

Oh my gosh...

I just bought a new bag of feed but my old bag was almost empty and the bottom got wet. I wonder if that has something to do with it. I've had a couple of chicks seem normal then just die but this isn't like that. The blrw belly seems less bloated...and its eating and drinking but it's still standing weird with the wings just sorta hanging down. I really hope this corid helps. I'm going to do 4 days and then do 3 of probiotics, wait 2 weeks and do another 24 hours of corid and then 3 more days of probiotics and then back to their usual water with some vitamins and electrolytes. I don't want to give them vitamins now because that's what the corid does is prevent b vitamin absorption to kill the cocci. So after all the treatment I will go back to giving them their vitamins.

 

[LonelyPageTurne]

On a positive note my egg box is hung.

.opinions please? Should I put trim on the front or just not bother? I can't decide.

 

[Leahs Mom]

Oh my gosh...

I just bought a new bag of feed but my old bag was almost empty and the bottom got wet. I wonder if that has something to do with it. I've had a couple of chicks seem normal then just die but this isn't like that. The blrw belly seems less bloated...and its eating and drinking but it's still standing weird with the wings just sorta hanging down. I really hope this corid helps. I'm going to do 4 days and then do 3 of probiotics, wait 2 weeks and do another 24 hours of corid and then 3 more days of probiotics and then back to their usual water with some vitamins and electrolytes. I don't want to give them vitamins now because that's what the corid does is prevent b vitamin absorption to kill the cocci. So after all the treatment I will go back to giving them their vitamins.

If there is any question - remove the feed right away!!!!! I understand how to flush the system in adults...not sure if it can be used on chicks since they're tiny and you don't want to dehydrate them.


Here are the symptoms of Mycotoxicoses

Scroll all the way to the bottom and look at the possible symptoms on this one:
http://www.mycotoxins.info/myco_info/animpy_sr.html



http://www.thepoultrysite.com/disea.../www.mycotoxins.info/myco_info/animpy_sr.html

http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/poultry/mycotoxicoses/overview_of_mycotoxicoses_in_poultry.html

 

[Leahs Mom]

PS: Corid WILL NOT HELP mycotoxosis.

REMOVE THE FEED RIGHT AWAY AND GIVE ONLY CLEAN FEED!

You want to get the toxins out of the system ASAP. And the Corid will block thiamine so it may give you another problem...

 

[Leahs Mom]

Sorry so many posts but didn't get it all in one.

If there was really the possibility of moldiness in the feed, be sure to clean up any litter on the floor around where you were feeding also.... around and under feeders, on the walls (they flick feed from their beaks) clean out waterers and any wetness on the floors below, etc. Be sure none of that feed can be found anywhere...even if it means cleaning it up right down to the floor.

 

[racinchickins]

I had a mishap today. I was changing out waterers in one of my brooders today, and while I was filling them, a turkey poult jumped out and one of my dogs got to it before I did.

It's my own fault. I've been planning on moving them to the larger brooder in the basement where the dogs aren't allowed, but hadn't got around to it. So I made the switch today, even though it made me late for work.

On a brighter note, I just completed a 9/10 hatch on poults, and the next set goes in the hatcher tonight! Getting near the end of my hatching season. After these poults, I have mottled java chicks due to hatch on the 23rd. Planning on shutting the incubator off after that. Might do a Bresse hatch in late June to have meat birds to process just before winter sets in.

If anyone is interested in learning how to process chickens. I have some cornish cross that are about 2 weeks from being ready. Can't wait to get them done. 6 of them generate more poop than 30 of my heritage chickens.

 

[LonelyPageTurne]

Sorry so many posts but didn't get it all in one.

If there was really the possibility of moldiness in the feed, be sure to clean up any litter on the floor around where you were feeding also.... around and under feeders, on the walls (they flick feed from their beaks) clean out waterers and any wetness on the floors below, etc.  Be sure none of that feed can be found anywhere...even if it means cleaning it up right down to the floor.

Ok. I cleaned EVERYTHING. I had just bought a new bag and actually was using that instead of the last of the feed from the bag that got wet. But everything is totally cleaned. Fingers crossed.