On a positive note, regarding the bantams (d'uccles)...I have been giving them massive amounts of treats and they have determined I can be trusted as long I have food in hand. And the little female will eat from hand every time now. I carried her into the basement last night to hand feed her mealies. She took one look at my totes the worms are kept in and she made all sorts of happy sounds. I'm hoping by the end of summer we won't have to net them anymore to get them inside their pen at night. I just feel like netting them sets us back no matter how far we get with them during the day. We have tried coaxial get and tricking hem with treats to get them back in.we have tried just waiting it out to see if they will go in on their own. They roost so high on a fence we can't get them without the net, even after they go to sleep.