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A weasel took one of our chickens a few years ago. We could tell by the "manner of death" using one of the many charts online. Our coop isn't far from both woods and a creek. I have never personally seen one of the varmints in my life, and hope I never do. What they do to poultry (mostly waste them, literally and figuratively) is about enough to make me happy people wear them as coats. Definitely one of the banes of poultry keepers. If they actually ATE the birds, I'd feel better about them. Raptors don't waste birds when they kill them, they eat most of the innards at least. Coyotes eat everything but the feathers. I understand clearly that wild animals have to eat. We who love animals here are mostly not vegetarians, and many raise their own meat whether it's poultry or hogs or cattle or whatever. But the weasels/minks/stoats, those little #$%%^^&&** are cold-blooded murderers mostly. I wonder if they are feeding litters right now or something that so many people have had recent losses.

ANYWAY, thanks to everyone for the well wishes for my medical testing for a pain pump. Thursday was a very up and down day.

First, after two hours, I had a 50-60% pain reduction, which after two days of off and on crying was greatly appreciated. I hugged my doctor. I usually respect professional boundaries, but I "tested myself" by getting down on the floor (which is hard enough, even with gravity) and then getting up quickly, with no help. No furniture to grab. No hand to grab. Just my own four limbs and no moaning, groaning, or crawling until I COULD pull myself up using a stable piece of furniture. It was literally like a miracle.

We then left the office. Within an hour, I started to itch. Just a little. Then every 15 minutes, it was more. And more. AND MORE until my whole body itched like crazy from head to toe. Just what I was so afraid of since I've had hives from narcotic allergies in the past. But I reached the doctor's office the next day and he said as long as I did not get hives (not this time), we could move forward and he would just ease me onto it slowly. The fact that they have to kind of slam the drug all in at once (technically called a bolus) made the itching more likely to happen, and he's seen it plenty of times before and had those people go on to be successful with the pump.

The narcotic test maxes out at about 6 hours and lasts 12-24. I can say that he was right about that. Despite the itching, I certainly had no pain of any note for the rest of the day. I had to use prescription antihistamines to get to sleep, but once I was asleep, I slept through the night for the first time in several years.

So now I just wait until Anthem says OK (they pretty much can't say no since the test went so well in terms of my pain), then I have to detox one more time. I told the doctor he would not get 7 days again--only 5, since that's as long as my sanity lasted this time. The nurse told me as an aside that 5 would be enough. Hopefully, I'll be able to get off the Tramadol once and for all and then see if I can get off any of my other pain meds, too. I'd like to get my marbles back. I have no idea if I'll be able to go back to work or not. We'll just have to see how it goes. Both times I had my neurostimulators put in, everything felt awesome on the table, but once it was scarred in (especially the second time), the effect was very much diminished. My old scar tissue won't affect the pain pump because this surgery is in a different layer of the spine that is NOT scarred.

Sorry for the long non-chickeny message, but I know there are some other people on the list who have various chronic pain issues who might be interested in knowing how it went. I didn't know anyone who had a pain pump. If anybody on the list DOES have one and cares to, PM me and let me know how it all went for you. I do know my doctor is absolutely not a jerk, and that alone is very refreshing. Most pain management doctors are jaded by the people who are addicted and just want the pills, and not really to do something else to get OFF of them, but with my allergies, I was lucky I could even take Tramadol (it's synthetic, not natural like morphine and morphine derivatives).

And now, back to your regularly scheduled broadcasting! BAWWKKK!
 
A weasel took one of our chickens a few years ago.  We could tell by the "manner of death" using one of the  many charts online. Our coop isn't far from both woods and a creek.  I have never personally seen one of the varmints in my life, and hope I never do.  What they do to poultry (mostly waste them, literally and figuratively) is about enough to make me happy people wear them as coats.  Definitely one of the banes of poultry keepers.  If they actually ATE the birds, I'd feel better about them.  Raptors don't waste birds when they kill them, they eat most of the innards at least.  Coyotes eat everything but the feathers.  I understand clearly that wild animals have to eat.  We who love animals here are mostly not vegetarians, and many raise their own meat whether it's poultry or hogs or cattle or whatever.  But the weasels/minks/stoats, those little #$%%^^&&** are cold-blooded murderers mostly.  I wonder if they are feeding litters right now or something that so many people have had recent losses.

ANYWAY, thanks to everyone for the well wishes for my medical testing for a pain pump.  Thursday was a very up and down day.

First, after two hours, I had a 50-60% pain reduction, which after two days of off and on crying was greatly appreciated.  I hugged my doctor.  I usually respect professional boundaries, but I "tested myself" by getting down on the floor (which is hard enough, even with gravity) and then getting up quickly, with no help.  No furniture to grab.  No hand to grab.  Just my own four limbs and no moaning, groaning, or crawling until I COULD pull myself up using a stable piece of furniture.  It was literally like a miracle.  

We then left the office.  Within an hour, I started to itch.  Just a little.  Then every 15 minutes, it was more.  And more.  AND MORE until my whole body itched like crazy from head to toe.  Just what I was so afraid of since I've had hives from narcotic allergies in the past.  But I reached the doctor's office the next day and he said as long as I did not get hives (not this time), we could move forward and he would just ease me onto it slowly.  The fact that they have to kind of slam the drug all in at once (technically called a bolus) made the itching more likely to happen, and he's seen it plenty of times before and had those people go on to be successful with the pump.

The narcotic test maxes out at about 6 hours and lasts 12-24.  I can say that he was right about that.  Despite the itching, I certainly had no pain of any note for the rest of the day.  I had to use prescription antihistamines to get to sleep, but once I was asleep, I slept through the night for the first time in several years.

So now I just wait until Anthem says OK (they pretty much can't say no since the test went so well in terms of my pain), then I have to detox one more time.  I told the doctor he would not get 7 days again--only 5, since that's as long as my sanity lasted this time.  The nurse told me as an aside that 5 would be enough.  Hopefully, I'll be able to get off the Tramadol once and for all and then see if I can get off any of my other pain meds, too.  I'd like to get my marbles back.  I have no idea if I'll be able to go back to work or not.  We'll just have to see how it goes.  Both times I had my neurostimulators put in, everything felt awesome on the table, but once it was scarred in (especially the second time), the effect was very much diminished.  My old scar tissue won't affect the pain pump because this surgery is in a different layer of the spine that is NOT scarred.

Sorry for the long non-chickeny message, but I know there are some other people on the list who have various chronic pain issues who might be interested in knowing how it went.  I didn't know anyone who had a pain pump.  If anybody on the list DOES have one and cares to, PM me and let me know how it all went for you.  I do know my doctor is absolutely not a jerk, and that alone is very refreshing.  Most pain management doctors are jaded by the people who are addicted and just want the pills, and not really to do something else to get OFF of them, but with my allergies, I was lucky I could even take Tramadol (it's synthetic, not natural like morphine and morphine derivatives).

And now, back to your regularly scheduled broadcasting!  BAWWKKK!

That's a lot of "Amen!" as my mother would say! She's been on Tramadol for migraines but never a pain pump. I've met very few legitimate pain management doctors, so I'm glad you found a great one!

Yes, weasels wasting prey just drives one crazy. Seen a lot of pictures and it just about drives me crazy. We've mostly been hit by opossums and demented neighbor children.

Yes, I caught it in the act. I'd only ever seen a stoat hit on the road not too far from here, no other types of weasels. It was pretty blindsiding. Luckily, since we live in a woods, my coop is built to defend against all the predators we see around here. We'd never had problems with diurnal predators before, so the run has always been just a fenced in yard. Between this whole event and the hawks that have come back every January / February, I may have to start saving up and make some changes to their run. :/
:hugs It's amazing how tenacious they are. The fact that it took a turkey is just... wow. I was literally standing over Skua and this one was still trying to get at her. It had been trying to drag her out of the coop, but couldn't get her up the step to the pop door that was open. Luckily I have a baby monitor in the coop, so I could yell for help without letting it get out of my sight. I know it's dead, but I'm still terrified about letting my girls out of the coop in the morning... :/


I'm so sorry, pipd. Very glad you caught it in the act and could get help, even though that was a very traumatic way to discover the animal and the damage it caused.
 
Oh wow, so I went to RK in Bloomington and it is such a much bigger nicer store than ours in Martinsville. I've only been there one other time.

They have such a diverse list of birds.
I got a couple Cayuga and 1 crested duck, I got 8 chicks. A couple Silkie that appear will be Buff, 4 Dominiques and a couple Cuckoo Marans. I want to see how they compare to my heritage.
Most all are pullets. Ducks and silkies were straight run.

They said they do put in for special orders. They had already sold their geese (African & Dulan)
Almost every BIN are pullets. I'll do my best to recall them all.

White BB Turkeys
Ducks (Roeun, Khaki, Pekin, Cayuga and Crested)
Blue Andulusia
Silver Hamburg
Dominique
Barred Rock
Jumbo Cornish Rock
Buff Brahma
RIR
Cuckoo Marans
Silkies (white and buff maybe) no color labeled
Polish (black, blue, gold laced)
Speckled Sussex

I know there were a ton more bins but I can't remember the others.
 
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Hello all. Another chicken newbie here. I'm in the heavy research phase before I actually purchase some birds.

I'm located in Indy and am interested in starting with a small backyard flock- likely 3 chickens. I've done some initial checking around and it seems that online hatcheries want to ship with minimums of 15-25 and Rural King and Tractor Supply have minimums of 6. My checks of CraigsList over the last couple of days haven't been very promising.

Any suggestions for local or online chick sources that will deal with smaller chick purchases? Based on my reading, I'm going to be limiting my breeds to some combination of: Australorp, Plymouth/Barred Rock, Rhode Island Red, Orpington, Sussex, and/or sex-linked hybrid.

Thanks in advance.
 
Hello all. Another chicken newbie here. I'm in the heavy research phase before I actually purchase some birds.

I'm located in Indy and am interested in starting with a small backyard flock- likely 3 chickens. I've done some initial checking around and it seems that online hatcheries want to ship with minimums of 15-25 and Rural King and Tractor Supply have minimums of 6. My checks of CraigsList over the last couple of days haven't been very promising.

Any suggestions for local or online chick sources that will deal with smaller chick purchases? Based on my reading, I'm going to be limiting my breeds to some combination of: Australorp, Plymouth/Barred Rock, Rhode Island Red, Orpington, Sussex, and/or sex-linked hybrid.

Thanks in advance.

Our local feed store would sell just 3 - maybe check with those. I wonder if you would be able to find someone to split that minimum order with if you hung around in Tractor Supply, too. Meyer Hatchery (I believe) still does a 3 chick minimum order during warmer months...maybe check there. Finally, you could always get 6 chicks and craigslist the 3 extras.
 
Hello all.  Another chicken newbie here.  I'm in the heavy research phase before I actually purchase some birds.

I'm located in Indy and am interested in starting with a small backyard flock- likely 3 chickens.  I've done some initial checking around and it seems that online hatcheries want to ship with minimums of 15-25 and Rural King and Tractor Supply have minimums of 6.  My checks of CraigsList over the last couple of days haven't been very promising. 

Any suggestions for local or online chick sources that will deal with smaller chick purchases?  Based on my reading, I'm going to be limiting my breeds to some combination of: Australorp, Plymouth/Barred Rock, Rhode Island Red, Orpington, Sussex, and/or sex-linked hybrid.

Thanks in advance.

Welcome! Hatcheries will allow less like Mypetchicken will do 3 but their shipping charges are high.
You could check out the store bins and ask someone purchasing to throw in the 3 you want (I would if I were there and you asked) or you can buy 6 and sell the ones you don't want once they've gotten a bit older just in case you experience any losses as it does happen. Just a suggestion.

There are people here that hatch especially with spring upon us.
We have a link of members with breeds they raise and their locations. You could always privately message and ask.
 
I agree with the others, plus, don't give up on Craigslist just yet. With spring coming, there will be more ads posted to choose from. And if you want adults, there will be people selling some of their last year's birds to make room for this year's chicks. (I have been guilty of that!)

There are also some buy-sell-trade groups on Facebook you can check. I think one is called Southern Indiana Poultry. I'll have to look the other one up.* But if you find one, FB will suggest more. :)

*Central Indiana Chickens
 
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Thanks for the suggestions on small chick buys. I did locate two local feed stores that have chicks available right now, no minimums and breeds that I'm interested in, so looks like I'll be good there. My mistake was sticking with the large chain stores. Looks like the local folks are more flexible.

Another question- I was looking at the Indianapolis Ordinance page (https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/indianapolis-indiana-chicken-ordinance) and it is badly out of date. I have the latest info, but it looks like I can't directly post on that page or update the contents. The OP hasn't been on BYC for a number of years. Any suggestions on how I can get that info updated? Thanks.
 
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Hello all.  Another chicken newbie here.  I'm in the heavy research phase before I actually purchase some birds.

I'm located in Indy and am interested in starting with a small backyard flock- likely 3 chickens.  I've done some initial checking around and it seems that online hatcheries want to ship with minimums of 15-25 and Rural King and Tractor Supply have minimums of 6.  My checks of CraigsList over the last couple of days haven't been very promising. 

Any suggestions for local or online chick sources that will deal with smaller chick purchases?  Based on my reading, I'm going to be limiting my breeds to some combination of: Australorp, Plymouth/Barred Rock, Rhode Island Red, Orpington, Sussex, and/or sex-linked hybrid.

Thanks in advance.


Are you wanting to raise up chicks or get started hens? You can always bum around the feed store and ask others to split orders with you, or travel to stores which don't have minimum orders (Bloomington RK, for instance) or, you can throw a duck, turkey or "packing peanut" cheapo straight run (likely roosters) chicks to pad the order. Larger fowl have smaller minimums (two for turkeys or duckd, and you can mix and match). Put in a Christmas turkey and they likely won't ask you to buy many chicks. Or buy a bunch of chicks in case some die or were sexed poorly. Both are likely to happen (about a third of "pullets" I've bought at feed stores grew into roosters).

You can keep hunting on Craigslist or lurk around here long enough. Most of the time, certainly by fall, someone around here will be looking to downsize.

If you're wanting eggs, Runner and Khaki ducks are great layers of enormous eggs and lay about as many per year as Leghorns without having to buy six of them. Duck eggs are better in baking and generally tastier anyway.
 
Thanks for the suggestions on small chick buys.  I did locate two local feed stores that have chicks available right now, no minimums and breeds that I'm interested in, so looks like I'll be good there.  My mistake was sticking with the large chain stores.  Looks like the local folks are more flexible.

Another question- I was looking at the Indianapolis Ordinance page (https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/indianapolis-indiana-chicken-ordinance) and it is badly out of date.  I have the latest info, but it looks like I can't directly post on that page or update the contents.  The OP hasn't been on BYC for a number of years.  Any suggestions on how I can get that info updated?  Thanks.


Good golly,that ordinance is a pain in the rear end. It boils down to 12 adult (8 months old or older) fowl (chickens, ducks, quail only), only one of which may be a rooster, and he must be confined pretty much dusk til dawn (7 am or after). Can't remember regulations on rabbit hutches, but fowl had to have adequate shelter, food, water (all of which must be protected from pests). Since roosters aren't actually necessary for eggs, it's not a huge issue unless someone wants to breed multiple breeds or falls in love with extra roosters (which are generally picked up as chicks)
 

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