Wordstoyourface

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Hi,I am having some issues with my babys.

2 pics added of the brahma siblings, 5 weeks old,the small one died not 10 minutes ago,this is the size diff and lack of growth i am talking about,yes I washed my hands before handling the live one.


I have lost far too many chicks in the past 2 months. All have the same symptoms,all from tsc,all diff ages. Here is what I've done.

✅treated for worms.
✅treated for coccidiosis.
✅given extra supplements in food and water
✅check for lice and mites individualy all 30 birds,2 turkey and 3 quial weekly.
✅change litter every few days and spot clean
✅clean drinkers and feeders daily
✅seperated all birds into smaller groups by who looks the worse.
✅daily poop checks for coccidiosis and worms or anything out of the normal

General Symptoms over the past 2 months are,

*general listlessness
*puffed up
*mouth breathing or gasping(no crop issues,no smells)
*sleepy eyes
*ruffled looking feathers
*weight loss
*not roosting on bars
*all white milky poo
*sometimes pasty butt
*straight failure to thrive
*swollen face

After intensive Google research im suspecting salmonella oe Ecoli along with a sinus issue.No bubbly eyes.No discharges. Maybe the hatchery is having an out brake. Maybe its me. Maybe its the fact I switched from Purina medicated to Dumour not medicated. I switched back to Purina yesterday. They all die at diff ages. My polish and the grey one are 9 and 12 weeks. The polish had 4 siblings that died in a 2 week period of getting them.The babys are mix between 2 weeks and 4 weeks,all the same size still. The grey ones sibling died 2 days ago. The 2 jungle fowl also died. The one next to the grey one is half the size of its sibling that is in another brooder.

Am I close to diagnoses?. How do you treat salmonella or Ecoli in chicks? Besides biosecurity.

Side note,my litter pine pellets that I partly wet down so its softer(I do not place them in it while its wet). I switch between that and shavings.

I do not have access to an avian vet or livestock vet. The poultry lab is a 2 hour drive and I work the same hours they are open. I have been informed I can contacted them and do an over night shipment,but in order to do that,ill have to wait for another one to die,wich is what I'm trying to avoid.

I tried giving a shot of LA 200 to the polish but he literally has no breast muscle. I tried the thigh but it bled. I'm not a vet. YouTube only gets you so far. So I gave up and started treating them all in the water 2cc per gallon changed twice daily. That started today.

My question is,the ones too small for antibiotic shots,how do I inject super b complex and how much? One will not eat or drink at all. He pretends to eat. Weighs less than 2oz. He's 4 weeks but the size of a day old but with wing feathers.
 

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Wyorp Rock

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How much space and ventilation do they have?

You just had one die today - can you send the body to your lab for testing?

What Super B Complex do you have? Photo of the product?

How did you treat for Coccidiosis?
Photos of the poop?
 

Wordstoyourface

In the Brooder
May 3, 2021
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How much space and ventilation do they have?

You just had one die today - can you send the body to your lab for testing?

What Super B Complex do you have? Photo of the product?

How did you treat for Coccidiosis?
Photos of the poop?


I had 4 diff cages,sorted from biggest to smallest then sub sorted from healthiest to sickest. Yesterday I took the big healthiest ones and put them in a brooder in the coop. To create more space. Still treating all of them with the antibiotics. I treated with corid 5 days 2 tsp per gallon changed daily. I don't have a pic of the actual blood drop poop but I have these 2 pics. Now one of them is pooping black. Daily. I think its the polish. No I already buried it. I had one die yesterday while I was at work too but the body was no good when I got home. The website says to chill it within an hour of death.
 

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