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Internal Laying, or ???

Discussion in 'Ducks' started by Enchanted Sunrise Farms, Aug 13, 2013.

  1. Enchanted Sunrise Farms

    Enchanted Sunrise Farms Overrun With Chickens

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    i took my runner duck Dafny to the vet this morning. Her abdomen was getting bigger and bigger. i suspected internal laying. My vet brought me into the room where she was doing the ultrasound. Her abdomen is filled with roundish things with connective tissue. My vet is puzzled and says it doesn't look like eggs. Anyhow, left her there and they were going to drain her abdomen. i'm supposed to go back after 2:30 to get her. i hope it's not something horrible like cancerous tumors.
     
  2. Chicks Galore3

    Chicks Galore3 Artistic Bird Nut Premium Member

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    Uh oh, praying its not tumors!!! [​IMG]
     
  3. Miss Lydia

    Miss Lydia Running over with Blessings Premium Member

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    How is Dafny?
     
  4. Enchanted Sunrise Farms

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    It's not internal laying. Her belly is filled with tumors. My vet drained about a coke cans worth of liquid out. She is sending some of it out for cytology. The prognosis is not good. :(
     
  5. Miss Lydia

    Miss Lydia Running over with Blessings Premium Member

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    I'm so sorry. How old is she and did the vet say what causes this ?
     
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  6. Chicks Galore3

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  7. Enchanted Sunrise Farms

    Enchanted Sunrise Farms Overrun With Chickens

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    Miss Lydia - Dafny is only 3 years old. My vet doesn't know what is causing it. We both assumed internal laying till she did the ultrasound and pulled fluid. If it turns out not to be cancerous, maybe we can just drain fluid every so often and extend her life. She's doing better today, actually.
     
  8. Miss Lydia

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    That's great news that it's not cancerous. Makes me think of Astites [sp] water belly that a couple of my hens have had. Glad to hear she is feeling better, getting the fluid out probably helped a lot.
     
  9. Enchanted Sunrise Farms

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    The results of the fluid cytology showed it wasn't cancerous. It was a modified transudate (?), most often found in cysts. The ultrasound showed a lot of round objects in her belly. My doctor wasn't convinced they were eggs from internal laying. She pulled out about 12 ounces of fluid. It was a light brown color. Other than walking funny, Dafny has been doing well since that visit.

    i took her back Thursday for a recheck. My vet is still puzzled. Our options are to have a specialist come and perform a CT scan to see where these tumors are attached. Or they could do exploratory surgery. i don't like that option. i lost a duck once who had surgery. She got through the procedure then crashed when she started waking up. My vet said that happens a lot. She said ducks are very sensitive to pain. i suspect waking up in a lot of pain, not knowing what has happened to them is just too much sometimes.

    So for now, i feel that just draining the fluids every month or so might be the best option. One concerning thing, first time they drew fluid they showed me some and it was that light brown. This time, i asked the tech who assisted my vet what color it was and he said a very dark green. That doesn't sound good.
     
  10. Younger

    Younger Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sounds like Dafny is in the best hands possible. You are very knowledgeable and caring. She couldn't ask for any better. Hope things improve for you both.
     

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