International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[marchick]

When snowbird asks " what breed is the dark one " that should set off some alarms!!

I wonder what he sees that I don't?

 

[Chooks man]

@RebeccaBoyd BCM pullet .
@Tom Bright don t got your self confused , this pullet is marans 100% all marans trait are there ,head ,chest ,long back .well angled tail .all there .what missing is the legs feathers that all .
marans chooks have a specific body type and look , she exhibit them both .

we will see when she get older and fill up .
chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Here is a pullet with a halo. I had her penned up but turned her back out. I want to nip halos and lemon necked Marans (as I call them) in the bud. I agree with Chooksman that if I keep allowing for it, then it will become harder to eliminate.

A female can pass her halo onto her sons. A male can pass his halo onto both male and female offspring. (I learned that from Chooksman) This pullet is from Dark Halo. Her eye color is fairly clear so that is why I had her penned up in the first place.

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agree with you .she is a cull .never breed with golden hackle pullet. no point .
cockerel is a different story ,because cockerels have 2 copper genes some time one gene is gold and the other is copper ,that why we have halo hackle .
it is easier to get a good copper from a halo hackle rooster but you will never get any thing good from a halo hackle pullet .

@kfelton0002 ; how many pullets you are trying to breed with ? you really got me lost .I thought I know your flock not any more ,
what happen to last year pullets ,did you breed from them or just bred they mothers ?

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

mossy and overly marked BCM pullets .she is a cull .
this type of pullets are good to breed to BCM cockerel without shoulder pattern { black shoulders}

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

this cockerel is BC X BTB . he is designed to be bred to the wheaten lines and to his half sister from unicorn to increase the egg color .
he is a son of Day Walker over Gazelle {BCM hen} .
Never breed this guy with BC .

chooks man

 

[kcrandall]

Here are some random pics of my grow outs @ 9 weeks old. I have 6 cockerels and 11 pullets. So far type, tails and eye color seem to be good but things can change as we know. About half are showing decent color and the others have just a touch of copper or none.

Pictures #1-3 are mostly pullets some with copper hackles and others with little to no copper. Overall the girls have nice clean eyes, type and tails.

Picture #4 - I like this cockerels type, comb, tail and eye color but he not expressing any copper so far. He may turn out mahogany or all black.

Picture #5 - This cockerel has the most color showing so far with some leakage on his breast. He has good type, eye color, and tail set is low but long.

Picture #6 - This cockerel is showing some copper but just not as much as the cockerel in Pic #5.

 

[Chooks man]

Here are some random pics of my grow outs @ 9 weeks old. I have 6 cockerels and 11 pullets. So far type, tails and eye color seem to be good but things can change as we know. About half are showing decent color and the others have just a touch of copper or none.

Pictures #1-3 are mostly pullets some with copper hackles and others with little to no copper. Overall the girls have nice clean eyes, type and tails.

Picture #4 - I like this cockerels type, comb, tail and eye color but he not expressing any copper so far. He may turn out mahogany or all black.

Picture #5 - This cockerel has the most color showing so far with some leakage on his breast. He has good type, eye color, and tail set is low but long.

Picture #6 - This cockerel is showing some copper but just not as much as the cockerel in Pic #5.

nice looking BCM . agree with you ,they have stunning body type .long and chunky . copper look great too .
I really like the Black cockerel . what a type , shame he is darker
love the chest color on cockerel 5 .he will loose most of that copper when he mature ,he will have complete body pattern for sure .
all of them have a great head and tail .you have some thing nice to work with my friend .well happy for you .
keep posting as they grow .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

@kcrandall
this cockerel has a best plumage type I ever seen . what a specimen . every thing about him is class . he is black type . extra Melanin for sure even his toes are dark .
correct leg feathering .

chooks man

 

[KF0002]

agree with you .she is a cull .never breed with golden hackle pullet. no point .
cockerel is a different story ,because cockerels have 2 copper genes some time one gene is gold and the other is copper ,that why we have halo hackle .
it is easier to get a good copper from a halo hackle rooster but you will never get any thing good from a halo hackle pullet .

@kfelton0002 ; how many pullets you are trying to breed with ? you really got me lost .I thought I know your flock not any more ,
what happen to last year pullets ,did you breed from them or just bred they mothers ?

chooks man

I bred from Queen (hen), Malika, another no name black copper (#20 is what I think I call her), and two blue copper pullets. All but Queen and Duchess were 2019 offspring. Queen didn't lay well because she was almost constantly broody and I struggled with one of the blue coppers eating eggs in the group mated pen. Duchess literally only laid maybe 7 eggs all year so I've culled her as a breeder because she is a poor layer. I didn't end up with a single chick from Duchess. Not much luck all the way around and just a handful of grow outs to show from it.

Next year I plan on single mating Dark Angel to Pink band (Queen and Duke's daughter I just caught up). May retire Queen. Broken wing may go over Malika if he looks good when he matures. Then I will decide what 2020 pullets to breed when they fully mature. I've got plenty of time to think on things. For now, breeding is over until spring. I am only in the brainstorming phase for next year. I won't make my mind up completely until after the first of the year.

 

[Chooks man]

@kcrandall
this guy has a impressive width between his leg . his leg are straight and wide apart . he must have a great breast . chunky type . love his small tail .hope will stay small . love his plumage type too . all class .
your new line have a special plumage type .sublime .

chooks man