International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[wrathsfarm]

I'm up to 7 broodys this year...


That.Is.All.

 

[wrathsfarm]

I had a uh-oh moment yesterday and need some advise. Joannie has started back laying and I've gotten 2 eggs from her since going broody. She didn't lay yesterday. Now...the dominant wild man of the 14 week olds (which I should have separated by now but didn't) chased her down and mated her. How many eggs could I seriously collect and still be positive their not his? I'm sure if she lays today it would still be Kongs but then what?

I absolutely want no mix ups... Both cockerels from that group are now separated.

 

[NanaK]

At 14 weeks it's possible his technique is lacking and he did not successfully complete the deed.
No way to know for sure.

I've always been told to wait at least 30 days.

I know of 1 member here that waited 30 days and still hatched a couple unintentional mixes. She was breeding Ausralorpes but had a few other breeds.

 

[Tstraub]

I had a uh-oh moment yesterday and need some advise. Joannie has started back laying and I've gotten 2 eggs from her since going broody. She didn't lay yesterday. Now...the dominant wild man of the 14 week olds (which I should have separated by now but didn't) chased her down and mated her. How many eggs could I seriously collect and still be positive their not his? I'm sure if she lays today it would still be Kongs but then what?

I absolutely want no mix ups... Both cockerels from that group are now separated.

I have read that hens can reject sperm from unwanted males. I feel like if she was being chased and not willingly submissive this would likely be one of the times a hen would choose to reject the sperm in favor of the dominant male of the flock so chances are low that it was a successful mating.

That being said if you truly want no mixup you have to accept the possibility that what you witnessed was not his first run on her. Chances are low but not zero that he has been breeding her for some time while you were not looking.

 

[TexasBlues]

Went away on vacation and came home to see that my 23/ almost 24 wk old BCM rooster DROGON has blossomed! I’ve posted him before; @wrathsfarm you might recognize him!

Let me know what y’all think!

Cheers

Looks great! How’s his temperament?

 

[TexasBlues]

Pretty Girl checking for aerial attacks. Here’s one of her eggs. What would you rank it on the egg scale?

 

[TexasBlues]

Here is Penguin and her egg is the lighter one.

 

[wrathsfarm]

I have read that hens can reject sperm from unwanted males. I feel like if she was being chased and not willingly submissive this would likely be one of the times a hen would choose to reject the sperm in favor of the dominant male of the flock so chances are low that it was a successful mating.

That being said if you truly want no mixup you have to accept the possibility that what you witnessed was not his first run on her. Chances are low but not zero that he has been breeding her for some time while you were not looking.

I was trying to figure out how many eggs I could be positive were from Kong and not his mating her. I'm not going to use any now, because I needed to get eggs under that broody, But here was my question again.

Hypothetically speaking..let's say this was his first day mating her which I'm pretty sure, but not 100%. She had layed 2 days prior so those are Kongs. She did not lay this day wild man caught her.
She's got eggs in the pipeline, we know that. It's that number of eggs that would still be positively Kongs.
If she layed an egg everyday from this day that he mated her, an immediate number of eggs will still be Kongs. It's that number I was trying to still collect even it was 1 or 2 and still be safe to guarantee they're Kongs.

Hope I explained that better....

I wanted to put more Kong x Joannie eggs under a broody because I lost one and now only have the 1 pullet now from that pairing (Easter Sunday hatch).

 

[wrathsfarm]

@NanaK ...I wasn't ignoring you I meant to multi quote both yours and @Tstraub reply but hit reply instead of insert quotes.

Sorry about that...

 

[MayBerg]

I had a uh-oh moment yesterday and need some advise. Joannie has started back laying and I've gotten 2 eggs from her since going broody. She didn't lay yesterday. Now...the dominant wild man of the 14 week olds (which I should have separated by now but didn't) chased her down and mated her. How many eggs could I seriously collect and still be positive their not his? I'm sure if she lays today it would still be Kongs but then what?

I absolutely want no mix ups... Both cockerels from that group are now separated.

Hi. If I were you, I would not hatch any of those eggs and eat Joanie's eggs for the next 21 days. Like someone mentioned, what if that 14 week old got to her right before Kong. I am saying that because it's so hard to cull chicks. And the time, the money, the energy etc...
I would want to do it right from the get go. Jmho.