International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[KF0002]

they hatch down is almost there .
what I really like about them is the color of they eyes .blue

hatch more of this pair please . a lot good thing going for them .

chooks man

Great to hear that! Thanks!

 

[aart]

yes I use a separate pen or trap nests to catch them .
for me is really important knowing the first 30 eggs ,they help me decide if the pullet is a breeder or a layer.

chooks man

I bet that lots of pens...and/or lots of time monitoring trap nests?
Curious about your facilitates..any pics on here somewhere?

 

[craychixlay]

I have two BCM hens that have the best combs of the group but mostly black eyes :-\. Should I culling them?

 

[chickengr]

I have two BCM hens that have the best combs of the group but mostly black eyes :-\. Should I culling them?

can you post photos of them and of the roo? I guess a good roo can fix it. hens with good combs are rare.

 

[pioneerchick816]

Here's my young man. Looking pretty good He's 22 1/2 weeks old. Is there any hint at all of red on his wing? Or is it just wishful thinking lol?

 

[chickengr]

Here's my young man. Looking pretty good He's 22 1/2 weeks old. Is there any hint at all of red on his wing? Or is it just wishful thinking lol?

I can see red!

he is still young, give him some time. a handsome guy.

 

[KF0002]

I have two BCM hens that have the best combs of the group but mostly black eyes :-\. Should I culling them?

Not if they have good qualities otherwise. Eye color mainly comes from the male so as long as you use a male with nice eye color you should be okay. The genes for comb mostly come from the female in a mating. There *may* be a few dark eyed chicks produced to cull through. I do know that dark eye color can be produced by parents with good eye color, both male and female parent. Like the FRF line of BCM I have. The original cock bird and hen have good eye color but they threw a black eyed chick. I mated the same cock bird to hens from my LA line of BCM and the majority of the offspring has dark brownish orange eyes. Chooks man can give more advice about this.

Here is my little black eyed pullet.. she is very sweet and loves to be held. Lol (Pardon my appearance.. I had just got off work.)

She is very dark, feather-wise also so I do plan on using her to hopefully correct excess copper chest leakage and shafting on one of my better looking cockerels I raised.

Its all about balance in the breeding pen. You balance out the flaws of one bird with better or opposite qualities of another. For example a high tailed cockerel mated to a lower tailed hen should produce chicks with better tail angles.

 

[craychixlay]

Not if they have good qualities otherwise. Eye color mainly comes from the male so as long as you use a male with nice eye color you should be okay. The genes for comb mostly come from the female in a mating. There *may* be a few dark eyed chicks produced to cull through. I do know that dark eye color can be produced by parents with good eye color, both male and female parent. Like the FRF line of BCM I have. The original cock bird and hen have good eye color but they threw a black eyed chick. I mated the same cock bird to hens from my LA line of BCM and the majority of the offspring has dark brownish orange eyes. Chooks man can give more advice about this.

Here is my little black eyed pullet.. she is very sweet and loves to be held. Lol (Pardon my appearance.. I had just got off work.) View attachment 1130671 She is very dark, feather-wise also so I do plan on using her to hopefully correct excess copper chest leakage and shafting on one of my better looking cockerels I raised.

Its all about balance in the breeding pen. You balance out the flaws of one bird with better or opposite qualities of another. For example a high tailed cockerel mated to a lower tailed hen should produce chicks with better tail angles.

Thank you! Do you have a tip on what kind of light to use for candling dark eggs? I can't even see which end the air pocket is on. They are so dark.

 

[snowbird]

Thank you! Do you have a tip on what kind of light to use for candling dark eggs? I can't even see which end the air pocket is on. They are so dark.

Sounds like that is a good problem to have.

 

[snowbird]

Not if they have good qualities otherwise. Eye color mainly comes from the male so as long as you use a male with nice eye color you should be okay. The genes for comb mostly come from the female in a mating. There *may* be a few dark eyed chicks produced to cull through. I do know that dark eye color can be produced by parents with good eye color, both male and female parent. Like the FRF line of BCM I have. The original cock bird and hen have good eye color but they threw a black eyed chick. I mated the same cock bird to hens from my LA line of BCM and the majority of the offspring has dark brownish orange eyes. Chooks man can give more advice about this.

Here is my little black eyed pullet.. she is very sweet and loves to be held. Lol (Pardon my appearance.. I had just got off work.) View attachment 1130671 She is very dark, feather-wise also so I do plan on using her to hopefully correct excess copper chest leakage and shafting on one of my better looking cockerels I raised.

Its all about balance in the breeding pen. You balance out the flaws of one bird with better or opposite qualities of another. For example a high tailed cockerel mated to a lower tailed hen should produce chicks with better tail angles.

I will also say if you have a pinch tail female you can improve by using a male with open big bushy tail. This will work with any breed of poultry.