International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

Thank you! I'm still getting caught up after missing a few days of post.

I have 1 question. There was mention of chick down and it being desirable. What make a Marans down desirable or not? What are people looking for exactly? Is it different for Black Copper, Blue Copper and Splash?

Ideally you want to see minimal white in the wings and on the face of BCM chicks. There are two different breeders I talk to via facebook and have learned a lot from them about showing birds. I will be sharing pictures of theirs I have saved from facebook, I'm sure they won't mind me sharing them for learning purposes. The first breeder is a little more strict on his Marans chicks and only likes to see a small amount of white by the beak and little to no white in the wing. Like me, he struggles with parasitic white in the underfluff of his cockerels as they mature so he feels that too much white as chicks correlates to white in the underfluff or feathers as the birds mature.

In this picture, the two frames on the left would be considered the ideal Marans chick. The chick has no white wing feathers and minimal white on the face. The chick pictured in the two frames on the right has quite a bit of white on the face and also has several white wing feathers. The chick on the right also has a white spot on the upper part of its head. One or two white wing feathers is okay as chicks, but you definitely want the white feathers to molt out as the bird matures and you want to see no white after the adult molt that occurs between a year and 18 months old.

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This second picture below is from another breeder who believes that this chick pictured has the most white on the face that should be considered acceptable. A little white around the eye, and a little white beside the beak is completely fine.
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Ideally you want to see minimal white in the wings and on the face of BCM chicks. There are two different breeders I talk to via facebook and have learned a lot from them about showing birds. I will be sharing pictures of theirs I have saved from facebook, I'm sure they won't mind me sharing them for learning purposes. The first breeder is a little more strict on his Marans chicks and only likes to see a small amount of white by the beak and little to no white in the wing. Like me, he struggles with parasitic white in the underfluff of his cockerels as they mature so he feels that too much white as chicks correlates to white in the underfluff or feathers as the birds mature.

In this picture, the two frames on the left would be considered the ideal Marans chick. The chick has no white wing feathers and minimal white on the face. The chick pictured in the two frames on the right has quite a bit of white on the face and also has several white wing feathers. The chick on the right also has a white spot on the upper part of its head. One or two white wing feathers is okay as chicks, but you definitely want the white feathers to molt out as the bird matures and you want to see no white after the adult molt that occurs between a year and 18 months old.

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This second picture below is from another breeder who believes that this chick pictured has the most white on the face that should be considered acceptable. A little white around the eye, and a little white beside the beak is completely fine.
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Wow! Thank you for taking the time to reply in such detail. Those pictures are great and show exactly what you're talking about.
 
Here is a cute pic of a little wheaten Game hen we have free ranging I set some BCM eggs under. Due to other hens trying to muscle their way in to lay in her nest, only a couple eggs made it and only one of those hatched. She's a good little mama to her solo chick though. :)

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New to this forum, and new to Black Copper Marans. Our broody hen just hatched out a few chicks from hatching eggs - only 2 of the 9 made it. One is a BCM and I'd love to get any insight anyone has to share - is this the place to post baby chick pics? Our little BCM is 11 days today :love
 
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I still say pullet. I just can't discount that comb. Everything else reads cockerel but I am going to stick with pullet. I usually don't have any trouble with this and I know right away but this one has me baffled. It does have some nice big legs! I did have a pullet in my last hatch that was twice the size of any of the other chicks. I can't wait to find out.... Can you send a pic of #3? He was the for sure cockerel right?

Best I could do for now. I'm starting to wonder if I have all girls. The next few weeks will tell.

Edit to add: if it weren't for you guys I'd say 1 is a boy. Deep down I wonder
 
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