International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[chickengr]

Hi Chickengr;

one of the main problem with inbred line are the fertility .especially from the roosters.

a study has been conducted to see what the difference in the fertility between inbreed line and a NO inbred line .

they mated a inbred line Rooster to his half sister and unrelated hens ( not inbred . forward mating method ) . the result of the hatching from both hens where a same about 80%.

than they Mated a inbred hens and a No inbred hens to a No inbred rooster . the result of the hatch from both hens where a same and higher 91%.

So the conclusion was that the inbred rooster loose they fertility BUT not a inbred hens .( they fertility stay high ) the genetic and the condition will affect they fertility .


with Darwin 1 and his sister Daisy I only managed to hatch about 50% . this line has been bred badly .the only thing good about t they kept t pure. that is an asset .

Selective breeding can fix that.

chooks man

thank you. that explains why the eggs didn't hatch. the breeder had a few roos with hens so my couple might have been related. I am afraid that my cockerel marco might be inbred. the breeder does change the roos every 1,5-2 years so I am praying.

 

[Chooks man]

Hi Chickengr .
inbred line is not bad if it done properly ( selective breeding) .80 % hatch from a stable line better than 100% hatch from a mix line ( newly paired line ) too much culling.

to avoid a quick inbreeding in any flock we have to mate a pullet to her grand sire not her sire for line breeding .and a cockerel to his grand ma not to his mam.

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

here another line Walker BCM rooster and his progeny F1 and F2 ( this my second pure BCM imported line )

Walker big comb great color and type .


pure copper hackle very minimum flames. uniform color. he passed this quality to his son s . F1 William and the F2 Wallace.

 

[Chooks man]

here his daughter F1 Warda ( flower in Arabic ).nice type .great hackle ,well black with less sheen. nice eggs color 5/6

Ward F1 BCM


almost no sheen at all .nice pure black. great shank color.

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

here William F1 BCM rooster son of Walker brother to Warda.big comb too . nice color big type . I sold him to another breeder .he needed a type and the color.

Walliam F1 BCM Rooster


Look alike his father Walker. Not happy about his comb. my friend think is the best rooster he ever had .He s an English man and ll say to me ( Willian is a great rooster well manner like a Prince William .he ve got some thing majestic about him .).

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

here Wallace an F2 ( F0 Walker x F1 Warda ) I was expecting a big comb .I struck lucky one rooster has a smallest comb. plus great color like expected from this line.

Wallce F2 BCM rooster


some white appeared on his tail feathers. I have his son Wolf an F3 his is nice .still young
chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

here Wolk F3 BCM son of Wallace F2 over his mam F1 Warda.

Wolf F3 BCM cockerel 5 month old

 

[Chooks man]

after 3 inbred generation I managed to reduce the size and the shape of the comb and maintaining the gorgeous copper color and type.

the f3 Wolf his s all what i want from this line ( Walker - W line-). 3 years of selective breeding from one Coq.

this are pure copper bred back ward 3 time and nothing has been added to them .they have a light slate and pinkish feet. for the rooster. slate to dark with pinkish bottom to the girls.

there no wheaten in here just selective breeding. haven t see anything rather than BCM chicks hatching from this line.

lighter shank does not automatically mean they have Wheaten on them .IS NOT TRUE.

chooks man

 

[jroberts]

I've just moved back to my home area and had a farm here when I was a kid. And am thinkin about starting it back up. I've read on them and they seem like a pretty good all around breed. Matching that of Rhode Island Red. Idk why no one in my area has them. Their large enough to deter most hawks and foxes. I think I'm gonna introduce them to the area. Tired of seeing reds and Dominiques. Lol.

 

[Chooks man]

Hi Jroberts go and get your self some marans .they are the greatest chooks . robust .heavy .lay nice dark egg 150 /180 eggs/years. the cockerel test fantastic ant 6 month ( 2 Kg carcass )

plus there is many varieties you can choose from ( not that easy ) but you can get some help and advice from the breeders of country.

there is always some body trying to sale some of they access stock.

good luck and don t be shy to ask any question .we are here to help.

Welcome to the forum.all the best.

Chooks man