International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[Chooks man]

These are not the best pictures but it is not hard to see that he is a beauty.
He has the body type I love, thick and deep
Nice very wide stance, straight legs
Good color on the legs but in these pics I can't see any feathering
I like the way he holds his head with the curve of his neck
His color from best I can see looks good, nice mahogany shoulder, his hackle looks a little light at the bottom
Nice long back, good angle on the tail, looks like a good closed tail
Can't see much detail more pics please.
I think he is a keeper. He is much more my kind of bird. LOL I look for them to have a body like a ship and the chest I want to see the bow of the ship.
His body shape is perfect. More length in his back than the cockerel next to him. Even with his heavy body he is more balanced. He doesn't look heavy and clumsy. He looks perfect.

that is a fair and correct description .

good remark his back is longer and better than a cockerel next to him ( broad observation )

the color i didn t ask for because is a blue Wheaten he meant to have a golden bottom part of his hackle .

the mahogany you where alright . the same way as the Copper strain.

chooks man

 

[Red Banks]

@kfelton0002

HI need to go to work and keep coming back here. Here are pictures of Antonio and Claude when they were younger. I think the last picture is Bello on the right, not Claude, Antonio in the middle. Antonio and Claude are the same age.

 

[Chooks man]

I remember those photos .

chooks man

 

[Red Banks]

I remember those photos .

chooks man

They have changed a lot!

 

[KF0002]

@kfelton0002
 Chooks man is going to hold us to the fire!  Okay....I am ready for this step.  The pullets and cockerels are old enough to get serious, I need a spiral notebook, all chickens banded and divided into pens.

Thats why I havent paired any of my Marans yet. All of my grow outs are still in one pen together with my young Sussex birds. Once I can tell more about them I will start pairing them up. All of our records for our Games, Sussex, and now Marans are kept in a 3 ring binder. It includes toe punch records and wing and leg band numbers of every mating we hatch from each year. I also keep my marking records of where each bird came from that we didnt hatch here so my lines dont get mixed up.

Thanks for the advice Chooksman. I will wait until January or so to pair any of my chickens up so they have time to settle into their new pens by spring. We normally dont start collecting eggs for the incubator until March so I have a while yet.

 

[Red Banks]

You are light years ahead of me on this. I have to get organized.

 

[KF0002]

@kfelton0002 HI need to go to work and keep coming back here. Here are pictures of Antonio and Claude when they were younger. I think the last picture is Bello on the right, not Claude, Antonio in the middle. Antonio and Claude are the same age.

I see a lot of similarities in my cockerels to yours. Mine are still young and still mostly black but I hope they develop that lovely copper yours have.

 

[KF0002]

seem to me your breeding plan are not for this spring but they are for the next spring Cockerel 1 daughters .

that is no breeding ,that is speculative not selective breeding .we can not some body with some thing does not exist yet . based on what ?

we can do that if we have one breeder and we are welling to recreate a mate for him based on what he/she .

Cockerel 2 goes very well with a pullet in the post to create a early feathering type line and KEEP the Rooster from this line

Cockerel 1 mated to a same pullet will produce mix chicks Early and Late feathering type only Keep a late feathering type pullet

future progeny to create your line Mate the cockerel a son of cockerel 1 Early feathering type  to a pullets from cockerel 2 late feathering type and you will have a sex linked chicks KEEP a pullet and mated them to Cockerel 1 if he still a live to produce a proper late maturing strain
a KEEP the good cockerel and mate him to the they where with Cockerel 2 and remove Cockerel 2 from your breeding program .

ET voila selective breeding to multiplying chooks guys .be with me .in the moment don t stretch too much . you will get lost .

one step at the time and we don t dismiss any workable chooks from ours breeding program .

I never pair any cockerel before . a 6 month old . I have to see him how he look at that age not before .

chooks man

We dont breed baby chickens, dont misunderstand my chronic planning nature. Sorry if I seem over eager. We allow our birds to mature properly before breeding, around a year old. The wheels in my mind are constantly turning. I think for the future and am always planning, especially with our chickens. I wont make my mind up until the time comes but its fun to think ahead. It gives my mind a rest from nursing school for a brief moment so I dont go competely insane.

The slow feathering/fast feathering sex linked project sounds very interesting. I am now printing all this off for reference. Thank you!

 

[KF0002]

You are light years ahead of me on this. I have to get organized.

Buy a binder and some transparent page protectors. You can put any hand written or typed up records or notes in the transparent sleeves for future reference. Or keep a breeding journal. I keep everything. I can go out and pick up any bird on the place and tell you who his mom and dad was, when he was born, what bloodline he is, etc. With my Marans I record the egg color each hatched from as well. That is something Chooksman taught me to do. You can hatch in separate baskets or mesh laundry bags when the eggs are in lockdown so you can keep track of which chick hatched from what egg.

 

[Red Banks]

seem to me your breeding plan are not for this spring but they are for the next spring Cockerel 1 daughters .

that is no breeding ,that is speculative not selective breeding .we can not some body with some thing does not exist yet . based on what ?

we can do that if we have one breeder and we are welling to recreate a mate for him based on what he/she .

Cockerel 2 goes very well with a pullet in the post to create a early feathering type line and KEEP the Rooster from this line

Cockerel 1 mated to a same pullet will produce mix chicks Early and Late feathering type only Keep a late feathering type pullet

future progeny to create your line Mate the cockerel a son of cockerel 1 Early feathering type  to a pullets from cockerel 2 late feathering type and you will have a sex linked chicks KEEP a pullet and mated them to Cockerel 1 if he still a live to produce a proper late maturing strain
a KEEP the good cockerel and mate him to the they where with Cockerel 2 and remove Cockerel 2 from your breeding program .

ET voila selective breeding to multiplying chooks guys .be with me .in the moment don t stretch too much . you will get lost .

one step at the time and we don t dismiss any workable chooks from ours breeding program .

I never pair any cockerel before . a 6 month old . I have to see him how he look at that age not before .

chooks man

We dont breed baby chickens, dont misunderstand my chronic planning nature. Sorry if I seem over eager. We allow our birds to mature properly before breeding, around a year old. The wheels in my mind are constantly turning. I think for the future and am always planning, especially with our chickens. I wont make my mind up until the time comes but its fun to think ahead. It gives my mind a rest from nursing school for a brief moment so I dont go competely insane.

The slow feathering/fast feathering sex linked project sounds very interesting. I am now printing all this off for reference. Thank you!

no no I did not think that at all I meant you were light hit years ahead of me in record keeping. My chicks from frf could be sexed the first week because they were slow Feathering. All the males had no Tales. All misspelled words and improper punctuation is Samsung's fault. Haha