International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

More silver salmon. They are just gorgeous.
Silver mixed with copper can be messy to sort out later, especially with autosomal silver/copper, which mostly shows up on cockerel wing bows. If possible, keep silver types with silver(white) types and copper types with copper(red). It is possible to breed out later, but it would take a while and in the meantime you will have a lot of culling to get there. I still get occasional copper leakage on cockerels, and I've never even had black coppers, only black silvers.
 
Hello All,

It’s been a long while since I’ve been on BYC. I’ve spent the last couple of weeks catching up on this thread.

As for me, I lost most of my Marans last summer except for 3 of my older hens (2 BLCM and 1 SC). I lost both of my breeder coqs, Otis and Briscoe, in 2018. The 38 GFF BCM Chicks I got last spring all died by mid-summer. These setbacks took a toll on my drive and passion so I decided to take time away from breeding the chooks.

It’s taken a long while but I’m getting back in the saddle. This past weekend I acquired 20 BCM Chicks from a breeder in South Louisiana. I’ve also been in contact with Harvey Moore about acquiring 2 started quads of BCMs (hopefully by this fall). My thinking is that by working with 2 separate lines I will have more options in the future.

I will post pics of the new chicks soon. I look forward to reconnecting with you all.

Take Care,
Keith



welcome back!

soryy for your losses.

I lost my birds as well. it is not easy here to find good marans but as soon as I move to my new place (whenever that might happen) I will work with what I can find - parasitic white, bad comb and halo, mostly.
 
Silver mixed with copper can be messy to sort out later, especially with autosomal silver/copper, which mostly shows up on cockerel wing bows. If possible, keep silver types with silver(white) types and copper types with copper(red). It is possible to breed out later, but it would take a while and in the meantime you will have a lot of culling to get there. I still get occasional copper leakage on cockerels, and I've never even had black coppers, only black silvers.

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chooks man
 
Hello All,

It’s been a long while since I’ve been on BYC. I’ve spent the last couple of weeks catching up on this thread.

As for me, I lost most of my Marans last summer except for 3 of my older hens (2 BLCM and 1 SC). I lost both of my breeder coqs, Otis and Briscoe, in 2018. The 38 GFF BCM Chicks I got last spring all died by mid-summer. These setbacks took a toll on my drive and passion so I decided to take time away from breeding the chooks.

It’s taken a long while but I’m getting back in the saddle. This past weekend I acquired 20 BCM Chicks from a breeder in South Louisiana. I’ve also been in contact with Harvey Moore about acquiring 2 started quads of BCMs (hopefully by this fall). My thinking is that by working with 2 separate lines I will have more options in the future.

I will post pics of the new chicks soon. I look forward to reconnecting with you all.

Take Care,
Keith

welcome back my friend .
sorry to hear about your chooks . hope the new 20 chicks you got will turn into some lovely marans .

chooks man
 
Silver mixed with copper can be messy to sort out later, especially with autosomal silver/copper, which mostly shows up on cockerel wing bows. If possible, keep silver types with silver(white) types and copper types with copper(red). It is possible to breed out later, but it would take a while and in the meantime you will have a lot of culling to get there. I still get occasional copper leakage on cockerels, and I've never even had black coppers, only black silvers.

Thankyou. I have been getting impatient... i guess I will have to wait till next year. My hen didn't lay this spring because she came into lay in the middle of winter when i didn't want to hatch. I then had to move her and she didn't like that and stopped laying. So that was it for this round. Hopefully next year things will work out better.
 
One of my game hens went broody again on me a few weeks ago. Not wanting any more game mixes and she's a perpetual broody i gave her 7 eggs. 1 from my best laying hen from my layer flock and 6 eggs from Daisy x Drumstick. Mainly to test fertility and hopefully get a few more pullets. This hatch was a disaster. She ate one of the maran eggs 5 days into it, a first for her. Yesterday was day 19 of incubation and i woke up to the layer chick out and fully dried and one of the maran eggs with a pip. Throughout the day and evening kept checking progress and while alive and cheeping none was being made. At midnight last night had to intervene as its cheeps were getting weaker. It was starting to shrink wrap and horribly malpositioned. I really dont know how it managed to make that external pip. It took about 2 and a half hours to carefully extract it from the shell. After some time on a heating pad and some sugar water to give it a boost i returned it to momma. While she was distracted by her 2 new chicks i was finally able to properly candle the remaining eggs and they were all early quitters. One was on the verge of exploding. This morning the chick is stronger and she *I'm praying" is eating, drinking and pooping like a champ. I'll breath a sigh of relief when she's at least 48 hours old but i'm just grateful she's alive at this point. I took these pics of her at 12 hours old when i went out to give her another good drink of electrolyte water.
Meet Clover. Daisy x Drumstick.
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Thanks All! I know that I am not the only one on this thread that has had troubles or losses with their Marans.

After observing these chicks for 3 days I’m well pleased with their type, hatch down and vigor. Only time will tell what they truly are but I’m hopeful based on what I’m seeing at this stage.

Here are a few chick pics:

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Based on the parent stock of these new chicks I know that I will have to work on combs, tails and color on the females. Breeder has been working with her line for 5 years and says she has not seen side sprigs, vulture hocks, scissor beaks, etc. I’ll be happy if I get a decent pair to work with.

Here are a few representative pics of the parent stock (not my birds) and their eggs:

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Thanks All! I know that I am not the only one on this thread that has had troubles or losses with their Marans.

After observing these chicks for 3 days I’m well pleased with their type, hatch down and vigor. Only time will tell what they truly are but I’m hopeful based on what I’m seeing at this stage.

Here are a few chick pics:

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Beautiful.🙂
And the eggs are gorgeous.
 

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