Is he all IB or???

[new 2 pfowl]

Well, I definitely haven't figured out the "split" business yet, so please forgive the uneducated question:

This is the old guy around here (he's at least 22 years old).
Does the dark marking on his wings mean he's not 100% IB?
(The marking is definitely blue, not black)

(I did see a recent question about similar wing markings, but they didn't seem as pronounced as those on Mr. Chuffy here)

 

[Kevin565]

No clue but he's GORGEOUS

 

[bdfive]

I have a male that was here when we bought the property about 5 years ago. His shoulders are like that but the color looks more green then blue to me. I've figured maybe he has some black shoulder in him. Seems I remember it used to be black instead of the green. I hope someone that knows chimes in with an answer. Now I have about 26 peafowl, LOL!!! Have bought some and hatched others. Have 4 Java, 10 that are 75% Java I've hatched, 1 Black Shoulder peahen, 10 India Blue of which 2 are Pied and a pair of Pied White-eye. 2 of last years hatch are sold waiting to be picked up and need to sell another 3 but only to a good home.

 

[bdfive]

Might purchase another Pied White-eye. Is a hundred a good price?

 

[MinxFox]

I think I had to pay like 150 for my pied peacock so 100 for a pied white eye sounds like a deal to me.

 

[bdfive]

This one is a Silver Pied. Do all the Silver Pied have some white eyes or do they have to carry the white eyed gene? Thanks.

 

[AquaEyes]

This one is a Silver Pied. Do all the Silver Pied have some white eyes or do they have to carry the white eyed gene? Thanks.

Being Silver Pied requires carrying the White Eyed gene -- Silver Pied is not the result of just one gene, but an interaction of one copy of White, one copy of Pied, and two copies of White Eyed. This is also why they don't breed true -- when you cross two, half will get one White gene from one parent and one Pied gene from the other, while a quarter will get a Pied gene from each (and be Dark Pied White Eye), and another quarter will get two White genes (and look completely white, but will also be genetically White Eye, plus any color the parents might carry. If both parents were Bronze Silver Pied, then the totally White offspring will be genetically White Bronze Silver Pied, but everything gets erased from showing because of being homozygous for White).

 

[deerman]

Being Silver Pied requires carrying the White Eyed gene -- Silver Pied is not the result of just one gene, but an interaction of one copy of White, one copy of Pied, and two copies of White Eyed. This is also why they don't breed true -- when you cross two, half will get one White gene from one parent and one Pied gene from the other, while a quarter will get a Pied gene from each (and be Dark Pied White Eye), and another quarter will get two White genes (and look completely white, but will also be genetically White Eye, plus any color the parents might carry. If both parents were Bronze Silver Pied, then the totally White offspring will be genetically White Bronze Silver Pied, but everything gets erased from showing because of being homozygous for White).

Well put.......think but not 100% sure that. Silver pied have two copies of the white eye gene...

Reason i think so, i have had birds with all 3 genes and not be silver pied. Like BS pied white eye .

 

[AquaEyes]

Well put.......think but not 100% sure that. Silver pied have two copies of the white eye gene...
Reason i think so, i have had birds with all 3 genes and not be silver pied. Like BS pied white eye .

Perhaps simply the result of variable expression of the White gene when had as only one copy -- birds that are split to White seem to vary in the amount of white feathers they have, indicating that this gene doesn't always "erase" the same amount of color.

 

[deerman]

i have never seen a silver pied peacock with only a few white eyes.......if they have color train feathers those will be white eye.


even the pied white eye peacocks with alot of white don't look like silver pied......plus the peahens in silver pied have silver back feathers.......not so with a pied white eye. which carry all three genes...reason i think silver pieds carry two white eye genes


also silver pied are more white than just about all pieds......more like 70% white.