Is is BUMBLEFOOT?? help please

[Wynette]

It doesn't look like bumblefoot to me, for some reason...I've never had it, but have seen many threads on it. I think bumblefoot is always accompanied by a small scab/plug....but I could be wrong - I'm NO expert! Is he limping? Do you feel heat in the joint?

 

[cherylcohen]

I'm going to go out again this morning to inspect in more detail. I didn't notice any heat, he is limping

 

[speckledhen]

Hard to know where to cut without a black scab to go by. Yes, it can be bumblefoot, but this is a tough call. You could soak the foot in epsom salts and give him injectible antibiotics, but they'd have to be strong ones for a staph infection, not that Terramycin stuff. They can get stuff stuck underneath the nail which causes an infection in the foot--them scratching around on the ground makes them prone to that, which I suspect in this case. My own Isaac almost lost a toe that way, but strong penicillin and debriding the dead skin fixed him up. Toe still looks weird and thickened, but infection is gone. I doubt gout because it's only one foot, but I'm no expert on that.

 

[cherylcohen]

thanks Cyn, I'll try to get him somewhere I can soak it

 

[ruth]

No, it's not bumblefoot but it's similar in that it is an infection that has spread to his pad. That small back toe, the one that is black, looks to have gotten the nail torn off or an infection has entered. I've had a couple of roosters to get this and I operated on one but couldn't even find any pus or anything to clean out. His foot just kept swelling and finally cut off circulation and the toes and then the foot eventually dried up and fell off leaving his stump and spur. He got around fine for about a year when he finally died of different causes (other roos beat him up). I currently have another roo that has the same thing and has had for probably a year. I initially tried to clean out his foot/toe also to no avail so I just left it alone after that. His foot is swollen and stiff but he's been getting around on it for over a year.

So you can always try and make a small incision in the pad and see if there is infection but I'm betting there isn't anything you can see except a very swollen pad. You can also try cleaning out around that nail area. I'd probably just try some Pen-G for a while and see if it clears up on its own.

I also have a third roo with just the swollen back toe and the torn nail but his foot hasn't swollen. I'm not sure what they do to those back nails but all of mine free range so not much telling what they do.

 

[cherylcohen]

thanks so much ruth, I'm going to inspect further, he's indoors in a barn so his foot is pretty clean

 

[ChooksChick]

Cheryl, I just posted this to another thread, but you can look and see if you think Tricide Neo will help- there's a thread on non-surgical Bumblefoot cure somewhere here, and that's how I found out about this substance- it works great. I bought it after I confirmed with a wildlife rehabber that they use it on endangered birds.


"Find TriCide Neo somewhere- it's a powdered fish antibiotic that you can get from Koi shops or online fish stores that specialize in Koi. It's not cheap, but it's well worth it to save her. This can be mixed in small batches to soak her feet and has a special penetrating quality that will get into the deeper tissues and fight the infection systemically, even though it's applied topically. It's the only thing I know of that can do this, and it's used by wildlife rescues on Bald Eagles all the time for this type of infection- that's how I found out about it. Use this to soak the feet and you'll cut the healing time in half."

 

[cherylcohen]

thanks so much Renee

 

[cherylcohen]

trying to find baytril in my area, I see I can purchase online

does anyone know the dosage? this is what is says on the twincitypoultry supply web site




Baytril Injection - 20 ml 2.27% LIMITED SUPPLY
$69.95
20 ml Bottle at 2.27% would be 1cc injected in the breast for 1-3 days. One day is enough for "preventative" type measures, 2 days for moderate symptoms, 3 days for severe symptoms. If used for 3 days in a row, you need to follow up with friendly bacteria culture or pro-biotic. Can give orally with a eye dropper when needed. Enrofloxacin 22.7 mg,

 

[ChooksChick]

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I'm not sure- everytime I've used it, my vet has made an oral suspension out of it- injecting into the breast can leave a scarred area, from what I have heard. Perhaps Dak will know?