Is it humane to drown a cat because it attacked your livestock?

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No it's not humane. It's never ok to do that and a pretty dated way of thinking. It's more humane to trap it in a live trap and take it to a humane shelter. Think of the animals perspective and the fear it would be put through. Would a person want to drown? Absolutely not. No animal ever wants to die. It goes against their instinct to live.
 
Farmers clearly have been taught/learned that killing ANYTHING is perfectly ok to protect the Almighty Dollar! Lack of conscience? Moral integrity?
I wonder if anyone has every done a survey or has a hypothesis as to how many farmers are closet serial killers/molester/abusers that just haven't been caught?

Hmmm, this is kind of offensive. My experience has been that the farmers in my area are all around great people. My town is small, but growing, and a lot of that growth has come off the backs of these farmers. Corn and cows has paid for a lot of things in our county, and our country too for that matter. Another thing I've noticed about the farmers, in my area at least, is they are too darn tired at the end of the day from real, manual labor, to waste time with illegal activities of any sort. Here it's mostly the people with no job, and plenty of time on their hands, that partake in crimes, drugs, and other tomfoolery.
Sorry for the soap box, all meant in the context of discussion!
 
I know that a lot and I mean a lot of people are going to disagree with that idea, I'm not sure I could a cat, but a raccoon, I know I could. if you should catch one and are able, I'd take it to a local animal shelter, they will a lot of times spay and neuter and then adopt out as a farm animal. Cats do not kill just for the fun of it, they kill to eat, if you wanted to try and keep it, feed it, get it spayed or neutered and see what happens. God forbid should it get a chick or chicken, then it's off to the animal shelter.
I beg to differ...My cat is very well fed (1 can at night and hard food free fed)and she still kills things all the time. Rats, Rabbits, lizards, snakes and sadly birds of all sorts. I put a bell on her but she's a apex predator. If she was a person she'd be considered a serial killer! LOL
 
If you have a predator in a live trap, set the trap by the tail pipe of your truck. Cover the trap with a tarp (not plastic) and drape the end of the tarp over the tail pipe and start the engine. The animal will take the deep sleep in a few minutes. I have done this with skunks. They don't spray that way. I shoot the possums, relocate all the other animals.
 
Farmers clearly have been taught/learned that killing ANYTHING is perfectly ok to protect the Almighty Dollar! Lack of conscience? Moral integrity?
I wonder if anyone has every done a survey or has a hypothesis as to how many farmers are closet serial killers/molester/abusers that just haven't been caught?
Ya I have and it turns out those types of people overwhelmingly live in the cities and suburbs.
You can easily look up who's on the registered sex offenders lists and their locations and see for yourself about those.
Farmers care about providing for their families but to think they see income as the all Mighty Dollar is ridiculous. If farmers thought so highly about money they sure wouldn't continue to farm.
There's a lot more work then money in farming.
 
Not a pleasant way to go, that's for sure, but it's cheap and sure and quicker than you'd think...takes about twenty seconds on average. Yes, I've watched. You also can't use human experience to gauge what a different species feels. Humans KNOW what's coming when they get trapped underwater or are about to get trapped. A coon--or a cat--in a cage...well, I sincerely doubt it's thinking oh no! she's going to drown me! when I pick the trap up for the last time...they're way too busy lunging and snarling and trying to grab at me through the wire. That's why you plunge the trap in all at once and quickly. That way they don't have time to see the water or take a deep breath.

One's acceptance of the different methods of killing animals likely has a lot to do with what country you live in and which strata of society you're most familiar with. Where I live, drowning is currently considered inhumane. It wasn't, when I was a kid, and even veterinarians were fine back then with breeders 'bucketing' their cull pups and kittens. I'm 100% sure that a lot of people still do this and even use it as a means of birth control to this day rather than getting their animals neutered. And yet...and yet...I just can't get upset about the idea of it. I can't get upset because to do so would be monstrously hypocritical of me, for I also live in a society that currently considers it perfectly okay to glue an animal down onto a flat surface to the point of it being unable to move, then just tossing it away into the trash to slowly die of hunger and thirst and possibly even fear. Don't know about you, but even drowning seems pretty humane to me compared to THAT!

As for whether a cat deserves to die at all for giving in to its instincts and killing some birds, I'd say it all depends on whose cat and whose birds are involved and what your personal level of tolerance is. Mine is pretty low when any domestic animal reverts to being a predator.
 
Farmers clearly have been taught/learned that killing ANYTHING is perfectly ok to protect the Almighty Dollar! Lack of conscience? Moral integrity?
I wonder if anyone has every done a survey or has a hypothesis as to how many farmers are closet serial killers/molester/abusers that just haven't been caught?
Tina, When I read this, I was shaking my head. Farmers, for the most part, are the salt of the earth. Your serial killers and sexual predators, almost exclusively come from the city.
 
Is it humane to drown a cat because it attacked your livestock? I was reading on a quail thread earlier today. Someone had trapped a feral cat because it had tried to get into the quail cage. Then that person took the cage with the trapped cat inside and pushed the cage under water. I know farmers need to protect their livelihood. Any time it is necessary to get rid of a predator, i always hope a person can reason in the midst of their anger to do the job quickly with as little suffering as possible.
Shooting it or knocking it in the head, yep, if it's eating your livestock. I'm not objectionable for someone killing a feral cat just because it runs of their tame cats. But drowning? Nah, that ain't right.
 
Here in Florida it is illegal. FWFC says drowning anything is cruel. They recommend dispatch by bullet to head.
I for one would not be publishing illegal activity.
The rule of thumb for farmers is- shoot it, bury it & never talk about it.
 
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