Is it morally right to breed more chickens????

[Oven Ready]

OESDOG - Sorry, that was completely tongue-in-cheek.

I'm sure they don't have undercover BYC agents.... or do they ..... ?

Maybe I need to add more smiley faces

 

[Keara]

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was not directed at you.... but at the other people who are so set against killing surpluse chickens, or who seem to think you should take a chicken to a vet and spend hundreds of dollars.

Please, I trully think you are a sane chicken keeper who has their priorities in the right order.

sorry for the missunderstanding

 

[NHchicks]

I haven't read all the responses here, but I don't see how an overabundance of chickens can be a problem in a world where there is still hunger. The more chickens, the more eggs, and the more meat.

Having said that, I wish I had the stomach to turn my chickens into meat, but I'm afraid that'll never happen. I'll just have to give them away and let someone else do it (big maybe). I'm ashamed that my grandparents had no problem with wringing necks or using the chopping block, plucking and boiling, while I recoil at the thought of my pets ever becoming a food item.

I have been wimpified.

 

[Keara]

Here is just a few articles on the feral chicken problem. With the explosion of chicken popularity comes a need (like with all animals) of responsible ownership.



Feral Chicken Problem Invades Oahu
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?s=6273414


Feral chicken population out of control
http://www.royalgazette.com/rg/Article/article.jsp?articleId=7d26a0e30030009&sectionId=65

Rangers round up three of the feral chickens-UPDATED
http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2010/03/25/news/doc4bab676463cf0218428999.txt

I do not wish to offend, just educate and remind folks that if you breed you need to be ready to find a home or eat the ones you don't want to keep.


oesdog, I saw on one of your early posts on this thread that you are willing to send extras to freezer camp. So again my earlier post was not directed at you, I apologies again for not being more clear.

 

[TNRIRRoo]

Breed your own if that's what you want. Me thinks the other girl had a screw loose.

 

[Oven Ready]

I found these tips on the Hawaii News Now site (ETA : The first link above from Keara)

HOW TO KEEP YOUR ROOSTERS QUIET:

-Black out the bird's cage at night

-Put a muzzle and collar on the bird

-Put a hood or a sock with a hole over the bird's head, and cut out space for the beak and nose

-Soundproof your pens

-Lower the ceiling of the coop after the bird gets on his perch for the night

#1 - Our cockerels crow in the middle of the night

#2 - What kind of muzzle would stop a rooster crowing (while allowing him to eat, drink & breathe?

#3 - Are the beak and nose in a different place on Hawaiian chickens, doesn't a hole for one kinda provide a hole for the other?

#4 - I totally misread the last word and thought 'what good would that do', then I read it again properly and thought 'How?', 'How?' would be appropriate to my original misinterpretation as well.

#5 - What? Has this person had Xzibit 'Pimp their coop' and they have hydraulic lifters in the roof of their coop, and gleaming gold alloys on their chicken tractors

Not meaning to poke fun at the actual article but that just made me laugh. I know only one way to stop a rooster crowing, involving a machete, a block of wood and a barbeque.

 

[klnlehmann]

As for killing my own... Well, I couldn't do it - ever. Grew up on a farm and can process anything, but it has to be dead first. Before I started hatching my own, my husband made me call and confirm with my dad (yes dads, we never stop calling!) to make sure he would do the deed. Anyway, of course he agreed. My brother found a neighbor where he lives to help him out the first time.

Also, if you have extra call your local food pantry or butcher. See what the process is for donating the meat. Many will process for free if it being donated.

 

[oesdog]

Keara

Don’t worry – haven’t taken anything to heart! It is sad about the chickens - poor things!!!!!!! Should be safely packed away in a freezer!

Oven Ready - great I am with you regarding chickens and the BBQ to stop a rooster crowing is a brilliant idea! My wee chick is a bit too small at the moment for a BBQ though. May have to skewer him between two bits of pineapple?

Your all great - No am not leaving , am not upset by anything other than the stupid woman who got me posting these moral questions in the first place.

Thanks all for the comments and some made me laugh!!!!!!!!

 

[FourPawz]

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It's great Murphy got a forever home. If people would just do a fraction of the study about the breed that interests them they do when buying a car or a washing machine, there would be far less need for rescue. Folks, before you run get that cute dog you saw in a movie or a commercial, at least find out from a few owners what living with one is like. OES, like German Shepherds and border collies, are herding dogs and in addition to exercise and training requirements OES take a serious commitment of grooming time or regular trips to the groomer.

One of the main reasons the domestic dog is such a huge part of the human experience has to do with the fact that the dog is so genetically elastic. People have bred dogs for specific jobs almost since the first caveman brought home a puppy. If you do enough study, you should be able to find a breed that fits your lifestyle, if you desire a purebred. The herding breeds do well when their owners give them some kind of job - it doesn't have to involve sheep. Border collies love (and dominate) the sport of obedience and agility, for example. German shepherds compete well in those sports and many love the sport of schutzhund, which is actually 3 activities under the same umbrella. Even little dogs can participate in some sort of activity, even if their owner simply teaches them a series of cute tricks. They love it because they're interacting with their beloved people!

Sadly, the most popular dog type in the U.S. today is the pit bull, a type of dog (actually pit bull is a type, and legally at least 3 breeds and their mixes are lumped in together) which, in responsible hands can make a marvelous pet. However, they attract owners in many cases who either want an aggressive animal or who simply do not know how to handle a large, strong, active and headstrong dog. And, it is these dogs which make up a huge percentage of the pound and shelter populations. They skyrocket the numbers of euthanasias since too many shelters have had to prohibit their adoptions. Many have been so abused they're simply too damaged to rehabilitate in large numbers, so they're put to sleep, often as soon as they enter the facility.

 

[oesdog]

FourPawz

Thanks - Murphy was a lucky boy. A lot of folk see OES dogs on TV or in the movies. Like the Dulux adds or Cat and Dogs movie and they just don;t know the amount of grooming and stuff they need. A lot of them sadly get neglected and dumped. My last rescue was particularly sad. I called her Pollyanna - after the Movie! She was beaten as a puppy and left out in all weathers. She was eventually "rescued " by a rescue society. They left her in a little cage and couldn;t re home her because she was a cruelty case. After 2 yrs she went up for re - homing. A lovely lady felt sorry for her and took her home without understanding her needs. After 6 months they couldn;t cope and then she came to me. By this stage Pollyanna had brain damage and was blind from the beatings and starving. We had to hand feed her. She would moan and wander up and down constantly like one of those bears you see on TV! We worked very hard with her and eventually she was able to cope well with her blindness. She loved outing in the car and we always kept her on the lead as she would panic and get lost. She loved being groomed and was a very pretty girlie. She never played with toys as she had never learned. We did play sheep dogs in the park though. That meant we chased her! Sadly due to the beatings she began to get more brain damaged and eventually would " forget " to eat. So we had to feed her, then she collapsed and we discovered she had wobler syndrome. Her back was damaged. She was put to sleep at the young age of just 6. We had her for 3 yrs. Half her life was spent in torture and pain! I only wish we had her longer. - I am certainly with you on the doggys!