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Is it normal for a crop to be completely empty?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by freevillein, Sep 14, 2013.

  1. freevillein

    freevillein Out Of The Brooder

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    I'm kind of new to butchering chickens. I've done six, and for five of them, the crop was packed full. But the sixth was so empty I couldn't even FIND it until I accidentally ruptured it and only a little liquid was in there. Was that normal? I always thought they stayed full of grit. I haven't been giving my birds grit because they have a large dirt run so I assumed they got enough that way. Do I need to be giving them grit?

    She was a meat bird of some kind (huge, white, unknown breed) and young enough she didn't have eggs inside her, if that's relevant. The other birds I've butchered have all been roosters.
     
  2. HS Pye

    HS Pye Chillin' With My Peeps

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    What is grit in your definition? No chickens should never have empty crops, unless you do it purposely for butchering (some prefer it that way so there is less the mess type of thing). Your bird sounds like a white broiler.

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  3. freevillein

    freevillein Out Of The Brooder

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    Well, growing up we always used sand for grit for our chickens, but I don't have sand or sandy soil here. But I'd read that Muscovies can get the grit they need from soil, so I assumed chickens could too. They have access to very rock soil, so they would be able to eat pebbles if they wanted to.

    How long does it take not feeding a chicken before the crop completely empties? It's possible that other chickens are hogging the feeder and she wasn't able to eat for a while. She didn't seem sick or anything before I killed her.
     
  4. HS Pye

    HS Pye Chillin' With My Peeps

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    12-24 hours and the crop should be empty and then when you butcher you don't have to deal with the waste or the digesting food.

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  5. freevillein

    freevillein Out Of The Brooder

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    That's good to know. I'll definitely start doing that. I'm just learning how to gut a chicken, and it's SUCH a mess when I accidentally puncture something. She was probably fine then. I hadn't fed them yet today, so if she hadn't eaten in a while then it makes sense it would be empty.

    I also think I'm getting "crop" confused with "gizzard," since I thought they were the same thing until a couple hours ago. The crop wouldn't have grit in it anyway, so when it's empty, it gets completely empty, doesn't it? I haven't been bothering to keep the gizzard since I've never been a fan, so I haven't cut any of them open to see how much grit they have.
     
  6. HS Pye

    HS Pye Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yes the crop should get near or completely empty. Just as a random question how do you gut your chickens?

    HS Pye
     
  7. freevillein

    freevillein Out Of The Brooder

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    Horribly and with great effort. I've been slitting open the top of the chest above the breast and cutting out the crop (trying not to rupture it, since in 5/6 chickens it's been the size of my fist and packed with a very bad smelling half-digested wad of food). Then I open up the abdominal cavity from the bottom of the breast bone to the tail, reach in there and loosen up everything, and try to pull it out - finally cutting out the vent and sometimes part of the tail. It is a really tedious method, leaves a lot of lung tissue inside, and is CLEARLY not how it's supposed to go. I've been looking on this forum for ideas to do it better next time.

    Rabbits are much easier. I can hand them by the feet, and the guts all fall down and are really easy to get out. With chickens, though, when I try that the breast bone gets in the way.
     
  8. HS Pye

    HS Pye Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The way I do it is by stlitting the breastline from the crop (without rupturing it) to the vent and the pulling out all the inner gut through vent area.Then I wash the the meat and will freeze it if I'm not using it that day. I find this method quick and easy (not to mention less messy). Hope this helps! ; )

    HS Pye
     
  9. freevillein

    freevillein Out Of The Brooder

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    But isn't it really hard to cut through the breast bone? Or am I missing something?
     
  10. HS Pye

    HS Pye Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Whoops, worded badly. You cut to the side. You can find plenty of videos on YouTube.

    HS Pye
     

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