Is it the stupid deer again?

No, these big guys:
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They're all bucks, the one furthest on the left is munching on my blueberry bushes. Earlier we had 4 does and a fawn in nearly the same place.
 
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Trust me Steve, I'd send all of them if I could--four legged, long-eared rats.
 
Greetings, I'm the new guy. We are looking at raising hens in the spring. Very predator heavy area in Virginia. Heavy duty wired pens we're thinking.

Our real problem is deer, forgot all about the raccoons. I've seen posted elsewhere somebody integrates emu fowl for meat but primarily to keep foxes at bay for his free range birds. I guess emu are very territorial often try and chase him way. They also keep a fox at bay.

I'm wondering are there farm animals like goats, Lima, geese, etc that would chase the deer out? Should mention we are trying to develop an organic vegetable operation.

I've also seen posted elsewhere studying the deer to see if they are just passing through your property to get somewhere else. Where doing things like planting fast growing "spring greens" away from crops may keep them out of the garden. Trying to give them an alternate route through your property might work.

Does anybody have any experience with this?
 
For a small area garden try using human hair clippings in one of your wifes old nylon stockings. Place them 8-10 feet apart around the garden. It works better than spray.

For fencing the only fencing that really works is tall, 8 feet at least and 10 is better. It takes pretty heavy duty fencing to keep deer out. I pretty much gave up on a big garden. It seemed that the only things I really grew well were things the deer didn't like. Beans they aren't crazy on, asparigus, onions and garlic. Anything in the lettuce family was a goner, cabbages if I got them started were OK, but they scarf them up when small.

I just gave up, I might try some raised beds next year, but no more big garden, the deer win. Oh on last thing they don't like is rhubarb.

I actually like my deer, my biggest pest is a woodpecker. Federally protected rare species that is just a BH. Bored holes in my house, trees ( killed a couple ) and really is annoying pecking on the house. We have tried just about everything to get rid of this guy, I am not going to shoot him cause he so rare, but trust me Woody Woodpecker at his worst is less annoying than this guy. The only good news he disappears in the fall winter but rest assured he will be be back in spring and summer. I wish one of our bald eagles would get him.
 
Here in oklahoma the deer are bad about getting in gardens. Never heard of them eating pumpkins though. Last year we planted a huge plot of watermelons. When they were almost ready to pick I would go down to the patch and there would be busted watermelons and big strands of the vine with melons still on them stung out all across the place. Finally one morning I came over the hill to find three coyotes helping themselves to some of our watermelons. This year we built a fence around the watermelon patch. Coons are pretty destructive to crops as well. They eat things that you would never dream they would. A fence sometimes won't even keep deer out if its not tall enough or has space big enough for them to fit through.
 
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Woodpecker do not kill trees, the insects they are after kill the trees. If the tree is dying because of the holes it probably would have been dead anyway--the bird is just keeping the insects from spreading. If the woodpecker is working on your house, chances are it is infected too. The only exception is that many species will find some place on a structure where they can really make a lot of noise--usually the flashing on a house--and use it to warn other woodpeckers away.
 
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Woodpecker do not kill trees, the insects they are after kill the trees. If the tree is dying because of the holes it probably would have been dead anyway--the bird is just keeping the insects from spreading. If the woodpecker is working on your house, chances are it is infected too. The only exception is that many species will find some place on a structure where they can really make a lot of noise--usually the flashing on a house--and use it to warn other woodpeckers away.

No they don't kill the trees but they hurry the process along by pecking big holes chasing the pine beetles. There is a nest in one though. On my house it is the end gables which are about 8x16 timbers. We have lived in this house a long time and I am pretty sure this is not even the original woodpecker at this point, as I doubt they would be 25 years old, and we have been chasing them actively for over 20 years.

I am pretty passive on critters around my place, I don't shoot or hunt any of the animals, with just a couple of exceptions: Skunks ( 8 this year), raccoons, and coyotes. The first two are doubly bad as they are rabies carriers. I know we have martins, and mountain lions, but they are a rare occurance and I am not bothered by them. Skunks and coons have been are biggest problem the last couple of years, between my neighbor and I we are up to about 20 skunks this year alone.

An article on Woodpeckers, and yes its about nests:

"Woodpeckers Pound Out Peck of Problems in Idaho Power Poles
Mountains: The vigorous birds knock out huge holes for their nests, thus weakening supports.
January 15, 1995|DAN GALLAGHER, ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
CHALLIS, Idaho — That drumming in the woods along the Salmon River is the pileated woodpecker drilling holes in wooden power poles.

It could also be the sound of ratepayers' coins rattling away to pay for the damage.


The 18-inch-tall woodpecker knocks huge holes in the poles for its nests, undermining the supports for power lines that serve central Idaho mountain towns, including Sunbeam and Stanley.

"We've had woodpecker problems in the past, but nothing of this magnitude," said Frank Corrales Jr., finance and administration director for the Salmon River Electric Co-Op.

"It definitely has an effect on our cash flows."

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It could also wreak havoc for customers such as those in Stanley, often the nation's coldest point, if the weakened poles fall.

The pileated woodpecker is black and white with a red crest. When it gets busy pecking logs for insects or making a nest, it knocks out chips the width of a pinkie, Corrales said.

It may peck out a nest five feet down from the hole's entrance. That leaves just a wooden shell standing up against wind, ice and snow on the cables.

The woodpeckers have always caused some damage.

However, wildlife biologist Chuck Harris of the state Fish and Game Department said Idaho's long-running drought has probably dramatically increased the population because drought-weakened trees bring insect infestations, and the birds flock in to feed on them.

On a fall 1993 inspection of the power poles between Holman Creek upriver to Stanley, linemen found 100 in need of repair, including six that had to be replaced. That was about a third of the poles on that line.

That damage cost ratepayers about $200,000 in 1994, about $350 per customer. No one will even venture a guess what the bill will be in 1995.

Corrales said the co-op, which gets its electricity from the Bonneville Power Administration, is working with the Fish and Game Department and other agencies to find a solution.

The woodpecker is a nongame species, protected by federal law and therefore off-limits to hunters. Shooting them, a last resort, would require federal approval.

Plastic mesh was wrapped around the poles, but the birds drilled right through it.

A heavy-gauge wire mesh could be used, but officials fear that would make it too hard for linemen to scale the poles with cleated boots.

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And the wire mesh would become hot from being that close to the power lines.

Steel poles would solve the problem, but they cost 50% more than wood and the power would be out to customers for an extended period during installation.

And the co-op has failed to find a wood preservative or chemical that keeps the birds from jackhammering away at the poles.

"It isn't just a matter of them having a place to live," said Mark Collinge, state Animal Damage Control director. "They live to drill holes.
 

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