Is it unreasonable...

[E.M. Silkies]

I'm definitely sympathetic to being financially strapped. That's one I totally understand.

Honestly, I'm satisfied if I never see their dogs near my chickens again. But I truly would appreciate compensation of some sort as I know it will cost a good chunk to replace the pair. She said that she wanted to give me something, even if not the whole amount at once, which I appreciate. She asked for clarification for which house is ours, I think so she could bring something by in the future.

I do fully intend to call animal control if their near my chickens again. If the neighbor can't control her dogs, someone needs to. I'm not planning to do anything legally though. I don't want there to be any animosity between neighbors. Especially since she wasn't nasty about it when we took her dogs home. I'm all about being neighborly and I'd like to keep this very civil with no drama.

 

[ozark_chickies]

Simple SSS

 

[Mattemma]

If the neighbor did not offer to pay as compensation,and has not made an effort to secure the dogs then you will just create a nasty NFH situation.

I say very quicky SSS.Either that or be nice to the dogs,catch them,and take them very far away. No need to made things worse with the neighbor by asking for cash,calling AC,or killing the dogs. No need to dwell or be angry about the dogs(or the neighbor).Just take care of the predator.

I would feel better getting rid of the dogs one way or another if the neighbor did not atleast secure the dogs.THAT is a must after a kill.They don't do that then the dogs need to be gotten rid of!

 

[chickensbythesea]

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If I ever, EVER, found out you kidnapped my dogs and "took them very far away", let alone shot them, and didn't have the chutzpah to tell me, you'd have a much worse situation on your hands than having explained that my pet killed your pet. I'm pretty peaceful, but if I found out it was you, I'd do everything I could to let people know there's a dog-thieving looney on the block- because if you don't explain why, that's the only conclusion I can come to. Others aren't as nice as I am. I think OP did what was the responsible and mature action, and the neighbor seemed really understanding.

Except for the rare meth-head down the street, it's really not okay to kill/disappear someone's pet and not tell them. Best case, you put them in the same boat you're in (heartache over a lost pet) without the closure you have knowing what happened, worst case, you showed them you are okay with stealing and vanishing their pets, and your chicken coop is now in the line of fire.

 

[watchdogps]

Sorry, chickensbythesea, but in the country that's how it is. People know they are risking it when their dogs roam, but they still do. However "right to farm" laws in most rural areas allow a person to shoot trap, etc any animal that comes onto their property and threatens their imcome. That means chicken killing dogs, or crop eating cows. (Yep, I know somone who got himself some nice freezer beef that way). We just moved to the country and while my dogs aren't likely to bother stock if they were to get out, if they did and they got shot, id have to be understanding. A dog I bred got loose from his handler in farmland. He was a working lgd, so we were afraid he might try to get in with some stock because he loves them. I put in big letters on his flyers DO NOT SHOOT WILL NOT HARM ANIMALS

 

[galanie]

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If I ever, EVER, found out you kidnapped my dogs and "took them very far away", let alone shot them, and didn't have the chutzpah to tell me, you'd have a much worse situation on your hands than having explained that my pet killed your pet. I'm pretty peaceful, but if I found out it was you, I'd do everything I could to let people know there's a dog-thieving looney on the block- because if you don't explain why, that's the only conclusion I can come to. Others aren't as nice as I am. I think OP did what was the responsible and mature action, and the neighbor seemed really understanding.

Except for the rare meth-head down the street, it's really not okay to kill/disappear someone's pet and not tell them. Best case, you put them in the same boat you're in (heartache over a lost pet) without the closure you have knowing what happened, worst case, you showed them you are okay with stealing and vanishing their pets, and your chicken coop is now in the line of fire.

When I first read this post, I thought you would be an avenger against anyone who harmed your chicken killing dog. But then I re-read it, and you know, I agree with you. If you are going to shoot someone's dog for killing your livestock, Tell Them. After all, you are in the right, they will know what happened to the dog, and they will know to control their dogs in the future.

I do not agree with the last part though. Being an avenger against someone who didn't tell you about your dog and becoming a vandal and law breaker yourself is not a solution. Do as you expect others to do. Tell them you know what they did and talk to them about it.

 

[Ole rooster]

All of you are right to a point. The thing to do is tell the lady with the dog up front, in one of the visits, 'considering ma'am, we know your dog is roaming and will and has killed chickens, if it he comes back onto my property I have no other choice but to shoot it'. Mercy, she has been told and that should end it. If she doesn't care to look after her "pet" any better than she is or has, then she doesn't have the ability to care for the dog and shouldn't have it. If you rely on government to look after you someone has blown fairy dust over your head and has you dreaming. Take care on the problem yourself. You didn't start this deal but you do possess the ability to rememdy it if you have the will.

Look y'all, nobody that I know takes pleasure in shooting anybody's pet, killer or not. I don't enjoy killing any animal. I'm not a hunter anymore. But there will be no hesitation on my part in killing any creature coming on my place looking for a meal in my hen yard. Folks, God gave us dominion over the earth and all it's creatures. I'm willing to take Him him at his Word.

 

[teach1rusl]

OP - since it sounds like the dogs' owners are having financial difficulties, you will probably never see the value of replacing your showbirds, although you may see part of it. So will you be content with part of it (and their dogs not being on your property any more)??? It sounds like you will be. You need to be prepared for how you're going to handle IF that doesn't happen - moreso about the dogs than the money.

 

[chickensbythesea]

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If I ever, EVER, found out you kidnapped my dogs and "took them very far away", let alone shot them, and didn't have the chutzpah to tell me, you'd have a much worse situation on your hands than having explained that my pet killed your pet. I'm pretty peaceful, but if I found out it was you, I'd do everything I could to let people know there's a dog-thieving looney on the block- because if you don't explain why, that's the only conclusion I can come to. Others aren't as nice as I am. I think OP did what was the responsible and mature action, and the neighbor seemed really understanding.

Except for the rare meth-head down the street, it's really not okay to kill/disappear someone's pet and not tell them. Best case, you put them in the same boat you're in (heartache over a lost pet) without the closure you have knowing what happened, worst case, you showed them you are okay with stealing and vanishing their pets, and your chicken coop is now in the line of fire.

When I first read this post, I thought you would be an avenger against anyone who harmed your chicken killing dog. But then I re-read it, and you know, I agree with you. If you are going to shoot someone's dog for killing your livestock, Tell Them. After all, you are in the right, they will know what happened to the dog, and they will know to control their dogs in the future.

I do not agree with the last part though. Being an avenger against someone who didn't tell you about your dog and becoming a vandal and law breaker yourself is not a solution. Do as you expect others to do. Tell them you know what they did and talk to them about it.

I'm not saying I would be an avenger, like I said, I'm pretty peaceful, so I'd probably just let people know I thought you were a dog-napper. I was just saying by not being upfront, you're opening yourself up to the wrath of some would-be avenger types, because not everyone's like me. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind is my personal stance.

EDIT TO ADD: My dogs are all awesome with chickens, and on the off chance one wasn't, I'd totally understand if someone shot them to stop them from mauling the whole flock- if they owned up to it. I'd still be really upset, because I like my dogs, but I'd also be upset that your pets had to die because my jerk dog was misbehaving. I know what dogs can do to animals, and I'd understand why you did what you had to do, and I'd appreciate you letting me know, and giving me the chance to grieve & bury my pet.

 

[E.M. Silkies]

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If I ever, EVER, found out you kidnapped my dogs and "took them very far away", let alone shot them, and didn't have the chutzpah to tell me, you'd have a much worse situation on your hands than having explained that my pet killed your pet. I'm pretty peaceful, but if I found out it was you, I'd do everything I could to let people know there's a dog-thieving looney on the block- because if you don't explain why, that's the only conclusion I can come to. Others aren't as nice as I am. I think OP did what was the responsible and mature action, and the neighbor seemed really understanding.

Except for the rare meth-head down the street, it's really not okay to kill/disappear someone's pet and not tell them. Best case, you put them in the same boat you're in (heartache over a lost pet) without the closure you have knowing what happened, worst case, you showed them you are okay with stealing and vanishing their pets, and your chicken coop is now in the line of fire.

I live in the country and I've been on the receiving end of a dog coming home with a bullet wound. The dog survived but I doubt he ever went to that neighbors house again. The neighbor has chickens too and I believe our German Shepherd was caught chasing them. I totally understand why he shot him, I just wish that he would have let us know there was a problem first, given us a chance to deal with it and if he showed up again, then shoot.

And that's kind of what we've done here. We talked to the neighbor and given them a chance to deal with it. And if it's not dealt with then we'll take stronger action. They have two dogs, one is a puppy and I know she couldn't have done it. It has to be the larger one. I wouldn't have a problem shooting him because not only is he a chicken thieving mutt, he gets on my nerves coming to my back door like he lives here.

The only reason one of these dogs would disappear from it's owner never to be seen again is if I thought I could get away with kidnapping the puppy!

She has chased my chickens before but when she has come for a visit, she's pretty calm. She lays beside the barn waiting for me to feed and hoping I'll pet her. I haven't of course and it taken EVERYTHING in me to resist her cuteness but I don't want her to learn that it's ok to be here.




teach1rusl
Today 9:03 am
OP - since it sounds like the dogs' owners are having financial difficulties, you will probably never see the value of replacing your showbirds, although you may see part of it. So will you be content with part of it (and their dogs not being on your property any more)??? It sounds like you will be. You need to be prepared for how you're going to handle IF that doesn't happen - moreso about the dogs than the money.

I'm not stressing the money as much as I am the dogs. As long as it never happens again, I wont pitch a fit over the money.