is there a dewormer that's safe for layers??

[barnyard betty]

I have Wazine...and will use it with my pullets but it too has an egg withdrawl period of two weeks and recommends you use it every two weeks...so not helpful for my layers if I don't want to throw away 1/2 each months eggs. And to respond to a question by jsutusnak: yeah I know they have worms unfortunately. I found a roundworm around the vent of one of my hens ...yuck

I heard there was some product that is sold in the UK or Europe that has no withdrawl time...but not available in USA. Wonder why??
I'm already using food grade DE and it may cut down on parasites some but not enough apparently.

ivan3.....love the pic of the kitty with the microscope! I would love to have my own to do fecal float tests! Where do you get Eprinomectin? Geez, so many choices out there....

 

[dawg53]

I have Wazine...and will use it with my pullets but it too has an egg withdrawl period of two weeks and recommends you use it every two weeks...so not helpful for my layers if I don't want to throw away 1/2 each months eggs. And to respond to a question by jsutusnak: yeah I know they have worms unfortunately. I found a roundworm around the vent of one of my hens ...yuck

I heard there was some product that is sold in the UK or Europe that has no withdrawl time...but not available in USA. Wonder why??
I'm already using food grade DE and it may cut down on parasites some but not enough apparently.

ivan3.....love the pic of the kitty with the microscope! I would love to have my own to do fecal float tests! Where do you get Eprinomectin? Geez, so many choices out there....

You might be referring to Flubenvet. It is available in the U.S. but I dont know where, you'd have to google it. I know that dosages for it have to be made in the feed by weight of the product and the birds, or something to that effect, not sure. I've never used it.
Something you have to consider... which is more important; the health of your birds or the quantity of your eggs. Birds can die from worm infestations, not to mention the internal damage done. No birds, no eggs. Tossing eggs is a small price to pay. Here's a link to a member who used organics for worming. The worms weakened her birds immune system and opened the door for other diseases and bacteria to invade the birds body, all caused by worms creating multiple problems. She had a necropsy performed:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=576036
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=576245
I forgot to mention that on rare occasions a worm can work its way into the oviduct into a forming egg. When you crack the egg open you'll have have a nice surprise for you to cook along with the egg.

 

[ivan3]

barnyard betty wrote: ivan3.....love the pic of the kitty with the microscope! I would love to have my own to do fecal float tests! Where do you get Eprinomectin? Geez, so many choices out there..

The cat had not been `dosed', but was suffering from flaccid paralysis nonetheless. Please check out reference listed in my previous post (pretty much contains all info on `how to' test) - a used lab microscope can be had for ~$100.00 and refurbing is usually inexpensive (replacement bulbs in the $4.00 range). Very handy for any young nerd-tyros you might have at home/coming to visit, as well.

Ivomec Eprinex, as I mentioned in previous post, is available at good feed stores (a `good' feedstore will have a fridge full of all sorts of meds - that haven't expired) and online.

Please read product insert: http://au.merial.com/products/ivomec_eprinex.asp

 

[barnyard betty]

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Yes....my cats have that too, no cure though for that LOL!

Thanks for the info....I have wanted my own scope for years... My boyfriend laughed and thought I was crazy (still does lol) for wanting one at home. But it would be sooo valuble with all the critters I got and want

LOL! (I work in vet field so know what kind of disgusting little buggers can be in poop!)
I wonder how high of magnification would I need to fecal float? I know the professional ones are mega expensive new or used, I'm only familiar with what I've used though. Are they all pretty standard?

 

[Mskayladog]

So ivomec is safe for chickens.

 

[ivan3]

barnyard betty wrote: wonder how high of magnification would I need to fecal float? I know the professional ones are mega expensive new or used, I'm only familiar with what I've used though. Are they all pretty standard?

x450 pretty sufficient (x10 at x45) to begin. The scope in previous post is an old Reichert Jung L150 ($250, used, at University auction in `83). Google used microscopes and make sure that all documentation from manufacturer is still available on the web, they are pretty cheap, actually (check ebay). Fecal float info., in some depth - more links at bottom of page - (not specific to poultry but good primer): http://www.pet-informed-veterinary-advice-online.com/fecal-float.html

Mskayladog wrote: So ivomec is safe for chickens.

With certain caveats on range of utility (see Dawg53's info). Certainly safer than the state of the art in the early 20th Century: Roundworms, anyone? From: BF Kaupp's Poultry Diseases: http://archive.org/details/poultrydiseasesi00kaup (He was the Saif of the time: http://www.amazon.com/Diseases-Poultry-Y-M-Saif/dp/0813807182 and well worth reading). His Anatomy Of The Domestic Fowl: http://archive.org/details/anatomydomestic00kaupgoog is also an excellent reference (both of Kaupp's books can be downloaded in full for free)