Is this bumble foot?

[Miss Lydia]

That’s where a nice big towel comes in and a duck wrapped like a burrito! Butt facing out!

 

[Urban Waddler]

That’s where a nice big towel comes in and a duck wrapped like a burrito! Butt facing out!

Yeah, and I think I just don’t wrap her tight enough, for suddenly she has super human strength. Thank god she seems to forgive the whole situation within moments and still comes in for snuggles

 

[slordaz]

well it won't get better until the scab comes off and the infection is out, you don't want her going septic on you, maybe towel and an another person to do the deed while you hold and sooth her to get it off or like others have suggested a terry cloth washcloth

 

[Urban Waddler]

well it won't get better until the scab comes off and the infection is out, you don't want her going septic on you, maybe towel and an another person to do the deed while you hold and sooth her to get it off or like others have suggested a terry cloth washcloth

So, do you think my vet is just wrong about this? She worked for several years with chickens and did treat a variety of ducks, and specializes in exotics and birds. I just don’t know. I want to trust her and believe that the scab being there isn’t necessarily indicative of lasting infection, but there seems near consensus on here that it must be removed. I like my vet, but maybe she’s too book based where y’all have more real experience with this. One of her concerns with removing scab and packing was that adding any kind of unnecessary abrasion to the skin can lead to more infection, and that wrapping can often trap bacteria in, and antibiotics don’t always work. She seemed to think that cutting or tearing at skin was an absolute last resort, and that the practicability of keeping her feet bacteria free while it healed was not so great. I think what you’ve all been doing seems to work, and you know a lot about what you’re talking about. But I’m still torn, as again, I’d like to also trust my vet. ‍

 

[slordaz]

So, do you think my vet is just wrong about this? She worked for several years with chickens and did treat a variety of ducks, and specializes in exotics and birds. I just don’t know. I want to trust her and believe that the scab being there isn’t necessarily indicative of lasting infection, but there seems near consensus on here that it must be removed. I like my vet, but maybe she’s too book based where y’all have more real experience with this. One of her concerns with removing scab and packing was that adding any kind of unnecessary abrasion to the skin can lead to more infection, and that wrapping can often trap bacteria in, and antibiotics don’t always work. She seemed to think that cutting or tearing at skin was an absolute last resort, and that the practicability of keeping her feet bacteria free while it healed was not so great. I think what you’ve all been doing seems to work, and you know a lot about what you’re talking about. But I’m still torn, as again, I’d like to also trust my vet. ‍

Over book learned can present a bit of a problem, doesn't mean so much as they don't know things but , they are also more closed minded remember they make their money as long as you have to keep going back. theres a lot of people that have been treating this for generations on here that have hands on experience with it not just book learned. My friend took that advise and her duck went septic and passed away, even on what the specialist recommended just like yours did. Though you are ultimately the flock master of your flock and you have to decide whats best for them. GL with what ever advise you choose to follow for you and your flock.

 

[Urban Waddler]

Over book learned can present a bit of a problem, doesn't mean so much as they don't know things but , they are also more closed minded remember they make their money as long as you have to keep going back. theres a lot of people that have been treating this for generations on here that have hands on experience with it not just book learned. My friend took that advise and her duck went septic and passed away, even on what the specialist recommended just like yours did. Though you are ultimately the flock master of your flock and you have to decide whats best for them. GL with what ever advise you choose to follow for you and your flock.

Thank you for your response. At the end of the day, I just want to do what’s best for the duck. I get the sense that my vet doesn’t fully appreciate the generations of experience people have treating their animals, which isn’t so different from regular docs.

 

[Urban Waddler]

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Over book learned can present a bit of a problem, doesn't mean so much as they don't know things but , they are also more closed minded remember they make their money as long as you have to keep going back. theres a lot of people that have been treating this for generations on here that have hands on experience with it not just book learned. My friend took that advise and her duck went septic and passed away, even on what the specialist recommended just like yours did. Though you are ultimately the flock master of your flock and you have to decide whats best for them. GL with what ever advise you choose to follow for you and your flock.

Might I also ask what after cere looks like? Once the foot is wrapped, do you keep them out of water for a set amount of time, do you keep them indoors or off of dirt? How often does one change bandages, etc? And about how long til you can know if things have healed? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to wrap my head around the whole process so I’m prepared.

 

[slordaz]

we always kept it em in isolation that had rubber mat instead of dirt with maybe one of their best friends , and a kiddie pool for them to get in and clean up, but after they had been in it , water was disposed of out where the other animals didn't go and sprayed with clorox water to kill any infection that may have gotten in the pool and put it up until the next time we put a bit of water in there for them to clean with,as stall was clean we didn't wrap it and applied antibiotic after saline flush if they weren't getting the water to clean up, once it was closing up then we allowed back out with the flock

 

[Urban Waddler]

So, do you think my vet is just wrong about this? She worked for several years with chickens and did treat a variety of ducks, and specializes in exotics and birds. I just don’t know. I want to trust her and believe that the scab being there isn’t necessarily indicative of lasting infection, but there seems near consensus on here that it must be removed. I like my vet, but maybe she’s too book based where y’all have more real experience with this. One of her concerns with removing scab and packing was that adding any kind of unnecessary abrasion to the skin can lead to more infection, and that wrapping can often trap bacteria in, and antibiotics don’t always work. She seemed to think that cutting or tearing at skin was an absolute last resort, and that the practicability of keeping her feet bacteria free while it healed was not so great. I think what you’ve all been doing seems to work, and you know a lot about what you’re talking about. But I’m still torn, as again, I’d like to also trust my vet. ‍

Ok. So this conversation fueled me to call my vet and tell her all my fears of leaving it as is, and ramble off like a real loon (pun intended) about how I can’t live with this bumble foot. She said “I need you to know that I am taking this very seriously, and that surgery, removal may become necessary, but I do not believe in my medical opinion we are there yet.” She explained that I am monitoring it for these reasons. I take one photo each day of both feet and keep in a bumblefoot photo journal, to make sure there’s no change, and monitor if she has any movement or mobility changes. So, perhaps it’s not so much that my vet thinks we leave it, as she wants to balance risk by removing when needed. Also, she said removal isn’t always effective, or doesn’t keep it away, so a stagnant healer callous is better than a worsened one. For what it’s worth, I thought I’d share this update. I’ll keep watching and ultimately make a decision when I get all the facts. Good luck to all the bumblefoot sufferers! Anyone used Blue-kote?

 

[Miss Lydia]

I like blue kote .