Is this gapes

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by luckychic, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. luckychic

    luckychic In the Brooder

    Jul 19, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    I have four girls which I recieved all at the same time from the same farm. Other people I know have recieved hens from them with no problems. I've had them for 4 weeks starting tomorrow.

    about two weeks ago one of them, my Turken Leela, started to cough/sneeze - no fluid, good eyes, good color, good appetite and good attitude. It has been hot and dry here and they have turned most of their area to dust....Which I lightly spray down every day lately. Her symptoms have, just of today taken a twist. It is only about 80, and she seems to be just slightly more listless than usual, and more so than the other girls. She has been doing this yawning thing - as far as I know she did it one time for about 7 times then maybe just a couple more times - according to my son - while I was at work. She has been putting herself to bed a little early, about 45 minutes before the other girls, she has not been a consistent layer, and is not laying now, and her poop goes from looking great to different, nothing too alarming in and of itself, but with everything else maybe??

    I worry because I have read that gapes seems to move quickly once it is in the throat and what I am wondering is if I can treat for it whether or not I know for sure she has it. I feel that time is of the essence if she does indeed have it. And if so, what should I use? She is not a girl that will let me look into her mouth. I will have to treat her by using food as a tool to move the treatment. She will eat from my hands.

    And how do I preventatively treat the other girls??

    Thank you so much!!
  2. 65browneyes

    65browneyes Songster

    Mar 2, 2007
    Unfortunately, I can be of no help with the exception of sending well wishes. I'm sure those FAR more knowledgable than I will be along soon to give their advice.

    Good luck to you!
  3. dlhunicorn

    dlhunicorn Human Encyclopedia

    Jan 11, 2007
    heat stress is hard on a bird (they often stop laying) and they will also eat less also which is why you should put a good general complete supplement for poultry in their feed or waterer (I mix mine in with just a wee bit of cooked human oatmeal and mix that then thru their feed).

    Treatment for gapeworm:

    "Fenbendazole Treatments
    One-day Treatment
    1 oz Safeguard or Panacur per 15-20 lb feed
    Dissolve the fenbendazole product in one cup of water. Mix this solution well into the feed and give to the birds as their only feed source for one day. When completely consumed, untreated feed can be given. Be sure that the commercial medication contains 10% fenbendazole.
    Safeguard is a product of Ralston Purina, and Panacur is a product marketed by American Hoechst. One ounce of medication will treat about 1000 10-oz bobwhite quail. Adjustments of the amounts of medication and feed needed may be necessary depending on the number and size of the birds.

    Three-Day Treatment:
    1.2 oz Safeguard or Panacur in 100 lb feed
    4 oz pkt of "Worm-A-Rest Litter Pack" (Ralston Purina) in 50 lb feed
    5 lb bag of "Worm-A-Rest Mix Pack" in 495 lb feed
    Feed all the medicated feeds free-choice for three consecutive days. The feed mixtures provide 75 ppm fenbendazole. Quail will receive about 1.7 mg/bird each day for adult birds or 2.75 mg/lb of bodyweight.

    Fenbendazole has been shown to be a very effective treatment for eliminating Capillaria (capillary worms), Heterakis (cecal worms), Ascaridia (roundworms), and Syngamus spp. (gapeworms). Toxicity from overdosing with fenbendazole is very remote. Research indicates that amounts up to 100 times the recommended dosages have been given under research conditions without adverse effects to the birds. Use of this product during molt, however, may cause deformity of the emerging feathers."
  4. luckychic

    luckychic In the Brooder

    Jul 19, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    I have started to treat for gape. I found safeguard for dogs in a 3 day series. I bought the small dog package (10lb dog). I mixed a package up into some hummus and gave most of it to the sick girl and a small portion to the rest. Each package is 22% fen.

    Well see how it goes. I started at 5pm and did not see a change at bedtime. Also tried to put saline up her nostrils.....Will start a new thread on how that went..........It drained through to her eyes. Will talk to vet tomorrow to see if that is what was supposed to happen. Her thoughts were that if the saline didn't drain into her nostrils then she has some kind of blockage preventing proper breathing, causing gape like symptoms. Haven't actually been to the vet, just communicated via phone. If not better by Friday I will be sucking up the vet bill...

    So, well see. Hopefully the worming works.

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