Is worming necessary?

Location, location, location. While worms are worms, there is a difference in areas that are warmer, or more tropical, because they tend to be a more conducive environment for worm proliferation, and tend to have larger wild bird populations which also carry them. As a result, flock management is somewhat different in regards to worming requirements in warmer/tropical climates.

Another factor to consider is egg count in a fecal, and the health of the chicken(s). From everything I've read, roundworms tend to be the most common, followed by tapeworms. A good healthy chicken may have a minimal roundworm egg count, and it's fine. They pick the eggs up from the soil, and when minimal they tend to pass. Let that same chicken get stressed from overheating, a period where a predator is harassing it, molt, etc., and the egg count tends to increase significantly. That's when intervention becomes necessary. In tropical climates, worm proliferation is even higher due to year round warmth, and dampness, so scheduled worming is typically needed.

ACV, and DE are worthless as wormers. For those claiming they use these things, and have never had worms, it's likely they would not have had worms even if they didn't use ACV and/or DE. I've gone a couple years without having to worm, then bam, had to worm. After getting it under control, things were fine for a year, then bam, I had to worm again. 6 months later, I had to worm again, then everything was good for over a couple years. This is backed up by fecal floats, not just guess work. Far too many people have had chickens without a worm overload for several years, using ACV and/or DE, and were shocked when they were suddenly facing a worm overload. These things give a false sense of security.
 
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Also, I don't have a lot to say about ACV and coconut oil and diatomaceous earth, etc, other than these things should not be used as a substitute for coccidiostat, dewormer or ectoparasiticide. I don't think they will hurt unless the chickens are denied effective therapy for the above parasitic infections.
Thank you for your super educated information! I for one really appreciate your contribution! I learned a lot.
 
It's true that the environment where you live dictates how often birds should be wormed, particularly soil conditions.
Wormloads: Any kind of a wormload is unacceptable. What is the definition of a small wormload...5, 50, 200, 1,000, 10,000 worms? How many eggs does does ONE female large roundworm lay in one day? How many of the these eggs will infect other birds?
It's like cutting open a pillow full of feathers on a rooftop in a 50 knot wind. Try picking up each feather.
Like I mentioned before, they are everywhere in the soil.

What damage is caused internally by large roundworms? We know they steal nutrients from the host. The host eventually starves to death. Worms also weaken the immune system, making the bird susceptible to every imaginable poultry disease.
There is also scarring in the intestinal lining which prevents absorption of nutrients.
Finally, if there are enough worms, no matter what type of worms, they excrete toxins which are deadly to chickens.
We worm our dogs and cats monthly...chickens are susceptible just like dogs and cats.
I'd bet if anyone here or someone in their family had a small worm load, they'd be running to the ER....like yesterday.
 
Wormloads: Any kind of a wormload is unacceptable.
This is what I was getting at in my long-winded post. This is a fundamental difference between us. I don't think "no worms" is a realistic goal for livestock, nor do I think there is a lot of value in it. It depends on what kind of worms, and how many. Fecal egg counts are valuable for some types of worms and are predictive of total worm burden, but for most of the worms chickens get, it's not all that well-correlated. On that we agree. There is value, however, in assessing a general burden. Some of the things I will take into consideration when I look at a slide that's positive for worms: What kind of worms are they? Are the chickens sick? Are the worm egg numbers Scant? Overwhelming? Somewhere in between? As I said before, Heterakis is not a pathogenic or problematic worm in chickens.
 

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