It’s been 24 hours since internal pip. Should I make a safety hole?

[New duck mommy 2021]

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This was my egg
The first bruise was smaller and I made the safety hole in the centre of it not a big one as you can see. We don’t want a big one and baby to dry out we just want oxygen to get in the egg
Then left it alone for 24 hours
When I came back to it the bruise was bigger and moved over slightly ( second bruise )
So I made a new safety hole but a bit bigger this time
Size of a dime of a bit less
Saw the beak and was able to leave her be
From the first safety hole to hatch it took 52 hours and even then she still had a tiny yolk that took another 2 hours to absorb. So 54 hours
They take way longer when hitting wrong end cause they skip the air cell step
But let’s make sure this is a bruise and baby is in the wrong end first
Check for the breathing movement
I candle the air cell and at the bottom potion can usually tell by the movement
Also you can take the candler and go around the bruise and see if it’s pitch black or there is area to see in
I was able to see in around the bruise a little

 

[Isabella Mcadams]

This was my egg
The first bruise was smaller and I made the safety hole in the centre of it not a big one as you can see. We don’t want a big one and baby to dry out we just want oxygen to get in the egg
Then left it alone for 24 hours
When I came back to it the bruise was bigger and moved over slightly ( second bruise )
So I made a new safety hole but a bit bigger this time
Size of a dime of a bit less
Saw the beak and was able to leave her be
From the first safety hole to hatch it took 52 hours and even then she still had a tiny yolk that took another 2 hours to absorb. So 54 hours
They take way longer when hitting wrong end cause they skip the air cell step
But let’s make sure this is a bruise and baby is in the wrong end first
Check for the breathing movement
I candle the air cell and at the bottom potion can usually tell by the movement
Also you can take the candler and go around the bruise and see if it’s pitch black or there is area to see in
I was able to see in around the bruise a little

The “bruise” is pitch black, can’t see anything around it. Maybe just discoloration? I had opened a safety hole above the air cell a little earlier today, but the duck hadn’t internally pipped yet. But I think I can feel the bill, or at least something very hard, at the top of the membrane

 

[New duck mommy 2021]

The “bruise” is pitch black, can’t see anything around it. Maybe just discoloration? I had opened a safety hole above the air cell a little earlier today, but the duck hadn’t internally pipped yet. But I think I can feel the bill, or at least something very hard, at the top of the membrane

Keep an eye on it
I would be checking the egg often as they can go really fast if they do miss the air cell and can’t break the shell
But you also don’t want to make a safety hole in the egg if baby isn’t in that spot
Did you look for breathing movements?
I’m Going to tag @WVduckchick
Let her look at the bruise as she is the one who helped me

 

[WVduckchick]

If you haven’t done anything with the bruise yet, I’d suggest holding the egg to your ear, tap on the egg gently with your fingernail, and listen closely for peeping sounds. The bruise is what we typically see when a duckling is backwards in the egg and tries to pip in the wrong place. But it’s very hard to be sure. If you can make out any peeping sound, you may be able to figure out which way it is.

 

[Isabella Mcadams]

No sounds, but baby is definitely moving around in there. I’ll probably wait a few hours and see if it has internally pipped yet. The last batch of eggs I did, I didn’t have the wide end tilted up, and all eggs were breach. This time, I made sure to put the wide ends a bit higher, so the duckling shouldn’t be breach…

 

[New duck mommy 2021]

No sounds, but baby is definitely moving around in there. I’ll probably wait a few hours and see if it has internally pipped yet. The last batch of eggs I did, I didn’t have the wide end tilted up, and all eggs were breach. This time, I made sure to put the wide ends a bit higher, so the duckling shouldn’t be breach…

I don’t use turners I do mine by hand as the eggs lay flat Under a mom duck
But the school that uses my set up uses the turner where baby is up and down till lockdown
But what really causes the wrong end is baby gets to big to turn at hatch
I had 6 eggs ranging from 54 - 68 grams
4 needed help hatching 1 in wrong end 1 internal but could move to hit the external
2 hit outside the air cell and couldn’t finish
Mom had a batch under her small eggs as well and out of the 3 that made hatch time 2 internal but couldn’t move to external and died and one wrong end who I had to help
Now I don’t let my duck sit or myself incubate any egg under 70 grams
The two bigger of my 6 eggs hatched themselves perfectly
So small eggs can result in not getting into proper hatch
The next thing is some eggs start to hatch early and are still being turned going by the book of day 25
If it’s trying to get into position and bring turned baby will get confused
I don’t go by day 25 anymore
I have had to many from the schools to my hatch to my mom be all over the place on hatching
I go by the egg
Rocking and moving around
Shadowing pushing along the air cell and the air cell suddenly dipping forward quickly
That’s my lockdown
If it’s day 23 or 26 it’s what my egg is doing
I had a bad run my first batch loosing 2 due to my lack of knowledge on how to assist and when but I have since then had 2 school classes hatch 100 %
I helped a family plus 2 buyers get 100 % and I myself get 100 %
These were all first time hatchers
I really learn to read my eggs
I am worried about yours if that is a bruise you won’t have hours and hours as baby will run out of air
Can you take another picture of the egg so we can get a good look

 

[Isabella Mcadams]

I don’t use turners I do mine by hand as the eggs lay flat Under a mom duck
But the school that uses my set up uses the turner where baby is up and down till lockdown
But what really causes the wrong end is baby gets to big to turn at hatch
I had 6 eggs ranging from 54 - 68 grams
4 needed help hatching 1 in wrong end 1 internal but could move to hit the external
2 hit outside the air cell and couldn’t finish
Mom had a batch under her small eggs as well and out of the 3 that made hatch time 2 internal but couldn’t move to external and died and one wrong end who I had to help
Now I don’t let my duck sit or myself incubate any egg under 70 grams
The two bigger of my 6 eggs hatched themselves perfectly
So small eggs can result in not getting into proper hatch
The next thing is some eggs start to hatch early and are still being turned going by the book of day 25
If it’s trying to get into position and bring turned baby will get confused
I don’t go by day 25 anymore
I have had to many from the schools to my hatch to my mom be all over the place on hatching
I go by the egg
Rocking and moving around
Shadowing pushing along the air cell and the air cell suddenly dipping forward quickly
That’s my lockdown
If it’s day 23 or 26 it’s what my egg is doing
I had a bad run my first batch loosing 2 due to my lack of knowledge on how to assist and when but I have since then had 2 school classes hatch 100 %
I helped a family plus 2 buyers get 100 % and I myself get 100 %
These were all first time hatchers
I really learn to read my eggs
I am worried about yours if that is a bruise you won’t have hours and hours as baby will run out of air
Can you take another picture of the egg so we can get a good look

I don’t use turners I do mine by hand as the eggs lay flat Under a mom duck
But the school that uses my set up uses the turner where baby is up and down till lockdown
But what really causes the wrong end is baby gets to big to turn at hatch
I had 6 eggs ranging from 54 - 68 grams
4 needed help hatching 1 in wrong end 1 internal but could move to hit the external
2 hit outside the air cell and couldn’t finish
Mom had a batch under her small eggs as well and out of the 3 that made hatch time 2 internal but couldn’t move to external and died and one wrong end who I had to help
Now I don’t let my duck sit or myself incubate any egg under 70 grams
The two bigger of my 6 eggs hatched themselves perfectly
So small eggs can result in not getting into proper hatch
The next thing is some eggs start to hatch early and are still being turned going by the book of day 25
If it’s trying to get into position and bring turned baby will get confused
I don’t go by day 25 anymore
I have had to many from the schools to my hatch to my mom be all over the place on hatching
I go by the egg
Rocking and moving around
Shadowing pushing along the air cell and the air cell suddenly dipping forward quickly
That’s my lockdown
If it’s day 23 or 26 it’s what my egg is doing
I had a bad run my first batch loosing 2 due to my lack of knowledge on how to assist and when but I have since then had 2 school classes hatch 100 %
I helped a family plus 2 buyers get 100 % and I myself get 100 %
These were all first time hatchers
I really learn to read my eggs
I am worried about yours if that is a bruise you won’t have hours and hours as baby will run out of air
Can you take another picture of the egg so we can get a good look

I moisten the membrane with warm water every so often to prevent it from drying out. I can’t really tell what part of the duck is where. Like I said I feel something kind of hard at the top by the edge of the membrane, and when I touch it it moves like a bill would, but I’m just not sure

 

[New duck mommy 2021]

To me they looks like a bruise at the wrong end
When making a safety hole it’s best to be tiny
Just ti get air in but not to show membrane
But now that it’s done
Please take coconut oil and a q tip to put it on
This will help you to see what’s going on
You could be feeling any part
After you see what’s going on I would put Vaseline on it as it last longer
With that much open can you see if baby is breathing. Movements up and down ?

 

[Isabella Mcadams]

To me they looks like a bruise at the wrong end
When making a safety hole it’s best to be tiny
Just ti get air in but not to show membrane
But now that it’s done
Please take coconut oil and a q tip to put it on
This will help you to see what’s going on
You could be feeling any part
After you see what’s going on I would put Vaseline on it as it last longer
With that much open can you see if baby is breathing. Movements up and down ?

I can’t tell if it’s breathing, there’s no regular movement just shifting around in there. I don’t know how it would be able to breath if it hasn’t pipped yet

 

[WVduckchick]

I agree, moisten that whole exposed membrane with coconut oil or Vaseline. If you can’t tell after that, take a pic and maybe someone here can.