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Ivomec Injection for chickens

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Crystalchic, May 21, 2009.

  1. Crystalchic

    Crystalchic Gone for a bit

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    Can someone please tell me how to use Ivomec Injection on chickens to control worms. I think that i saw white worms in poop
    I have wazine also but was told that i cant use it on my layers
    I want to worm my entire flock
     
  2. Glenda L Heywood

    Glenda L Heywood Chillin' With My Peeps

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    it just means that you can't eat the eggs while giving Wazine for two weeks after worming them
    then in 10 days you will need to use the ivermectin

    actually you will need to not eat the eggs when using ivermectin also for two weeks

    ***OPTION 1
    it is safer for the hens to use the wazine now and amt for the water in the water and let it kill the round worms
    as too intensive wormer will kill many worms and poison the hens more
    as it makes a shock to their interna; system and the dead worms going to protein in the body of the chicken will poison their systems

    ***OPTION 2
    also you can use the 1% ivermectin and give it down the throat as well as a shot
    using propolene gycol as agent used with ivermectin injection kind
    this was told to me by my friend Randy Henry in Ca who used it a lot

    Ivomec 1% is water soluable and injectable, fast release and needs lowing down going thru the gut. that is why
    they use proplene glycol 3 drops to 1 drop of ivemec 1%. MIX GOOD ALWAYS BEFORE INJECTING

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    5% pour on is oil based and only used on shoulder of the bird in drops. Slow release going into the skin of the bird

    Not inside the bird.
    Directions for 5% ivomec with oil base put on shoulder

    only not internally.

    (1 1 drop small bantam such as female OE
    (2 2 drops large bantam male like OE
    (3 3 drops most bantams
    (4 4 drops larger bantams and smaller commercial hens
    (5 5 drops commercial large fowl and smaller large
    fowl
    (5 5 drops Large fowl chicken
    (7 7 drops larger males of large fowl breeds of
    Chickens.
    (A 5% oil type Ivomec Stays on the birds for at least
    6 weeks. and is the reason it is only used on the out
    side under the feathers on the shoulder of the
    chickens. Slow release time.
    (B 1% water soulable is injectable and can be used in the water.


    ***OPTION 4 INFORMATION ON #2&#3
    CURTIS GEARY" <[email protected]>
    Question on Ivermec 1%


    I will try to answer your questions as fully as I can. Since we are using ivermectin in an off-label fashion, first I need to say the birds being given ivermectin should not be used for food and the eggs should not be eaten. I am only saying this because I am a veterinarian and this is an off-label use and I am not aware of any controlled studies on the subject of withdrawal times. So for legal and safety reasons don't cull and eat these birds.

    However, we eat beef, chicken, pork, etc. everyday that had previously been given ivermectin, but established withdrawal times have been (or should have been) followed. The information that is to follow is from my own personal experience and is not substantiated in any scientific journals as far as I know and is purely for informational use. (That's the end of my little legal/safety speech).

    **INFORMATION 5
    What can happen if too much ivermectin is given? Well, so far I haven't seen an overdose of ivermectin in chickens, however I will extrapolate from other species. Most of the signs have to deal with the neurologic (nervous) system and occasionally involve the digestive system.

    In the dogs that I have seen, in mild cases the dogs just act like they are "drunk". They stumble, have difficulty standing up and usually can't walk a straight line. The moderate cases have this plus sometimes have blindness. Both of these cases usually resolve in 3-5 days with just some supportive care. The most severe case that I have seen was a 6 month old black lab puppy that ate the entire dose for a 1,000 pound horse after the horse spit out the wormer on the ground. It was comatose for 23 days, blind for another 10 days and is normal today (2 years later). So the overdose effects can vary, usually very dramatic, but usually resolve. However, death can occur with an overdose.

    ***OPTION 6
    I like the 1% injectable form because I can draw up exactly 0.1 ml and give it in the breast muscle or by mouth. I also like it because I know that the ivermectin is then getting into the bloodstream.

    From other studies we know that ivermectin is absorbed into the bloodstream from the digestive tract. With the 5% oil based solution, it was made to be absorbed through the skin of cattle that has a fatty layer, oil glands, haired skin, sweat glands, etc. and this is totally different than poultry. I am not saying if it works or not. I've never tried it, for those reasons.

    **OPTION 7
    the dosages that you have listed look like they would be a good starting point. I would first try them on some culls rather than your best birds and if it works then continue with it. Since chickens have an oil gland near the tail the ivermectin may accumulate there and last longer than the injectable form, I really don't think (but don't know) if it is going to hang around on the body for 6 weeks though. I would be interested to know of anyone else's experiences though.

    *** OPTION 8
    here are two chicken friends who use 1% injectable in the drinking water
    they do raise a lot of birds so they must know

    Iona wrote:
    I leave treated water (4 cc per gallon of water) in the coops for 2
    days. It is the only water so everyone drinks. I change the water
    mixture every day and more often if it gets dirty. There is a great
    margin for safety when using ivermectin so I don't worry about a bird
    over dosing on it. I have been using injectable ivermectin mixed with
    drinking water for 5 years now and have never had a problem.

    Gail wrote
    I use the injectable 1 % solution mixed at 8 cc. per gallon of water to
    treat canaries for air sac mites and to worm chickens, budgies,
    canaries, cockatiels, etc. I take their water away the night before and
    use this solution as the only source of water for 24 hours.

    It is
    important to treat again in 10 days to get all the mites that have
    hatched out since the treatment BEFORE they can lay eggs again. For
    scaly face/leg mites I treat the birds at least four times.

    Hopefully this information can help you decide how to worm with Ivermectin. I have studied this topic for several yrs now and do believe it is safe
     
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  3. threehorses

    threehorses Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm a big fan of the drop on, myself. I have a lot of experience with injectables and even I still get nervous. [​IMG]

    Btw, if you use ivermectin I'd still recommend using piperazine (wazine) before you use it if it's been a while since their last worming. There is a withdrawal period for eggs. If you're seeing any worms in the droppings, you really really should use piperazine first to help reduce the risk of losing your birds to the shock of high parasite loads being killed in the worming.
     
  4. NotTheMomma

    NotTheMomma Chillin' With My Peeps

    Wondering if you hvae round worms, or tape worms. IF they look like rice, then tape worms, if they look like spaghetti, then it's round worms.

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=185608

    Info is there on treating worms, and which wormer is most effective for what you're dealing with. Be sure to treat the WHOLE FLOCK, as if one has it, most likely they all do.
     
  5. sammi

    sammi Chillin' With My Peeps

    Dec 21, 2007
    Southeast USA
    three horses...most people do not inject the ivermectin..
    read Miss Glenda's post..the 1% ivermectin is the injectable.
    given orally, or injected.
    she suggests mixing it with propylene glycol...available at most livestock supply stores..
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2009
  6. my1smthop

    my1smthop Out Of The Brooder

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    hey does anyone use flubenvet as a wormer or food grade diatomaceous earth for worming? If so can I use them together????
     
  7. dawg53

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    Quote:Flubenvet isnt available in the U.S.- DE is useless as a wormer. You might want to consider one of the following; wazine, ivermectin,valbazen, safeguard, zimectrin gold or quest plus wormers.
     
  8. mypicklebird

    mypicklebird Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Yep- you need to ID your white worms first. You can give ivermectin repeatedly- and if you are dealing with tapeworms- they will be unaffected...
    Chicken tapeworms look a bit more like cous cous (to me) than rice. Kitty tapeworms look like rice.... please excuse the food analogies, but chicken tapeworm segments really do look like cous cous liberally sprinkled on the outside of a otherwise normal chicken poop. When a round worm is passed- it usually looks like dried up spaghetti sticking out of the poop....



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  9. featherbaby

    featherbaby Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Great information on worming. I'm about to put Wazine in everyone's water today. Do I just leave it in the water for one day only?

    If you put Ivermectin on the skin does it effectively kill internal worms as well as the external parasites like mites? The reason I ask, I don't have a helper and it's almost impossible for me to hold AND get medicine in the beaks of these little Ninja Silkies! They have more moves than John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever (Oooooohhhh, that dates me big time, doesn't it?).
     
  10. dawg53

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    Quote:I know it's late responding to your post....yes, just leave the wazine out for them for 24 hours then dispose it and replace with regular freshwater. Wait at least 10 days before you apply ivermectin pour on (make sure it's 'pour on') to the bare skin on the back of their necks just above the shoulders. Ivermectin will kill most internal worms, but not tapeworms. Yes, it'll kill most lice and mites externally.
     

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