Janoel 18s

[Bigdoghen]

I have been using my Janoel 18 on my last hatch and they all got death rings on day 9 I followed advice to put temp at 37.5 and put one cups worth of water at day one only… I did candle daily, and the eggs where shipped. I’m picking up a new batch of fertile eggs and would love any advice for it work this time. Thankyou

 

[nuthatched]

It could be because they were shipped

 

[Ridgerunner]

Welcome to the forum, glad you joined!

I'll link a couple of incubation troubleshooting guides that might help you determine what is going on. These are more for commercial operations and not so much for our backyard flocks but you can get some ideas.

https://extension.msstate.edu/agric...y/trouble-shooting-failures-egg-incubation#ED

Common Incubation Problems: Causes and Remedies (ucanr.edu)

Is this the first time you tried this incubator? Have you incubated before? Is it your first time candling?

I'm assuming you know nothing so don't be too offended at my questions. Do you know what you are looking at when you candle? I almost never see any death rings. For it to be all of them makes my wonder if you saw normal veining or development and thought it was a death ring.

Did you calibrate the incubator? It is fairly normal that factory settings are wrong. Use a thermometer that you trust to compare and make sure your temperature is close to what it should be. Did you notice any development at all?

For them to all die at the same time sounds like something to do with your incubator, not something that happened before incubation started. My prime suspects are the incubation temperature was too high or the temperature in the incubator spiked long enough to kill any developing embryos.

Good luck with it. This kind of stuff can be frustrating.

 

[Bigdoghen]

Welcome to the forum, glad you joined!

I'll link a couple of incubation troubleshooting guides that might help you determine what is going on. These are more for commercial operations and not so much for our backyard flocks but you can get some ideas.

https://extension.msstate.edu/agric...y/trouble-shooting-failures-egg-incubation#ED

Common Incubation Problems: Causes and Remedies (ucanr.edu)

Is this the first time you tried this incubator? Have you incubated before? Is it your first time candling?

I'm assuming you know nothing so don't be too offended at my questions. Do you know what you are looking at when you candle? I almost never see any death rings. For it to be all of them makes my wonder if you saw normal veining or development and thought it was a death ring.

Did you calibrate the incubator? It is fairly normal that factory settings are wrong. Use a thermometer that you trust to compare and make sure your temperature is close to what it should be. Did you notice any development at all?

For them to all die at the same time sounds like something to do with your incubator, not something that happened before incubation started. My prime suspects are the incubation temperature was too high or the temperature in the incubator spiked long enough to kill any developing embryos.

Good luck with it. This kind of stuff can be frustrating.

Thanks so much for your reply, yes first time incubating and candling, it’s a defined red circle around the length of the eggs and yes appear d over night, the day before there was veins spread out like a spider with a black dot in the middle.

I google what red ring looks like and it’s exactly what I have they are still in incubator so today is day 10. Should I keep them in there and wait abit longer? My thoughts are either I candle too much (once a day) or my temp is up and down, I’ve ordered a separate temp and hygrometer but it hasn’t arrived yet. Ill attached photos of two of the eggs. Please let me know if they are worth keeping in there today is day 10.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Those are not going to hatch so I'd remove them.

They started to develop and then died. Why? I'd try to answer that before I started another batch of eggs.

 

[Susan Skylark]

Definitely check the temp consistency, will probably be your main issue. Shipping stress kills eggs too but usually later incubation. The true blood ring is rare, maybe 5% of dead eggs, not sure if that is what you are looking at, possible but weird. Maybe your heat runs at 105 and fried them all making ideal blood ring conditions? Get your thermometer and run an empty incubator (assuming these eggs are toast) and see what the real temp is, if it is running 103+ no matter what you do you’ll need a new incubator.

 

[Bigdoghen]

Definitely check the temp consistency, will probably be your main issue. Shipping stress kills eggs too but usually later incubation. The true blood ring is rare, maybe 5% of dead eggs, not sure if that is what you are looking at, possible but weird. Maybe your heat runs at 105 and fried them all making ideal blood ring conditions? Get your thermometer and run an empty incubator (assuming these eggs are toast) and see what the real temp is, if it is running 103+ no matter what you do you’ll need a new incubator.

It’s a brand new Janoel 18 incubator

 

[Debbie292d]

It’s a brand new Janoel 18 incubator

I have three Brinsea 56EX's, two were brand new, and neither were correct on temperature. One was only off by a half of a degree so no biggy, but the other by a degree and a half. New doesn't mean they're accurate, unfortunately.

Many of us buy the Govee brand on Amazon. They have several models and usually some are on sale.