Japanese Coturnix Falb-Fee Discussion Thread

[shrimpsilkies]

From what I’ve heard roux + fee will create a lighter colored roux, and if you breed the light one to another fee, you can get even lighter roux if some offspring carry roux and two copies of fee. As far as how these came about and what they are called, I’m not sure, that male looks like golden and fee almost, but I also have a male with patchy beige feathers along the edges of a bare white pied chest (not fee so darker than yours) and he was normal looking pharaoh tux, and those beige feathers started popping up at about 5.5 weeks old, and I think they might be a natural development of the male chest feathers along the edges of the pied areas. I have snowie eggs incubating now, so hopefully next year I’ll have better first hand knowledge to share.

I guess it’s possible the Fee came from the mother! I suppose I could backcross or get hold of another Fee male to test this. I’ve been wanting to recreate that pale beige hen for as long as I’ve had her!

 

[Fenrisulfr]

This is not the Fee factor. Much to much brown, even for heterozygous birds.

Probably it is different dilution factor.

To be honest, difficult to say which.

I got Brown-Wildpattern birds, looking similar to the mother, but it is recessive, so would not inherite to the son in pic 2+3. The roos also look different.

If I would have seen the son without the story, I would have guessed a Calico... (see pic).
But I don't know much about Calicos, yet.
So I cannot verify.

 

[shrimpsilkies]

This is not the Fee factor. Much to much brown, even for heterozygous birds.

Probably it is different dilution factor.

To be honest, difficult to say which.

I got Brown-Wildpattern birds, looking similar to the mother, but it is recessive, so would not inherite to the son in pic 2+3. The roos also look different.
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If I would have seen the son without the story, I would have guessed a Calico... (see pic).
But I don't know much about Calicos, yet.
So I cannot verify.
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I don’t know if there are Calicos in the US, and I doubt either source from the two parents had any! He looks identical to these:

Here are a couple pics of falb fee roos
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Maybe I ought to test breed him...

 

[Fenrisulfr]

I don’t know if there are Calicos in the US, and I doubt either source from the two parents had any! He looks identical to these:

Maybe I ought to test breed him...

I would disagree, heterozygous Falb Fee roos got brown at the sides, but not on the back, as your roo has.

Also the Fee factor is incomplete dominant, so it should have showed on the parents.
The mother has obviously no Fee factor, nor the father.

As I wrote before. It is another dilution factor (which I cannot point out) but no Fee.

 

[cherrynberry]

My falb fees! I suspect 2 of the ten hatched are pharaohs. As I heard somewhere that falb fee breed 80% true...2 of the ten were more brown and are starting to get brown feathers