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I dont think its your post. I speaking for my self do not get updates or pm emails till the next day if im lucky.
never had these problems before with the old site. So maybe other people are too.
 
Soaring Chicks said:
I dont think its your post. I speaking for my self do not get updates or pm emails till the next day if im lucky.
never had these problems before with the old site. So maybe other people are too.
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ditto!!! I was not even aware that we had new photos to talk about
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Wynette said:
OOoooh.....pretty.....

First male has a nice under line, nice & round. Tail angle is low, but that's a tough one to judge by a photo. Back could be longer, but it's not what I would say is "short" at all. He's got a somewhat funky-looking comb, but I would not make a decision on using him over combs since the penalties are so minor for flaws. This male, to my novice eye, does not look very big for his age. When I look at his shanks, at this age, I want to see them much thicker - however, again, that's a tough one to judge in a pic. His wing appears to be held a bit too low. He appears to be in very good condition, which says lots about the keeper!

Second male's underline is not quite as nice as the first male. Back appears to be nice & long. His comb is nice, too (though again, I certainly wouldn't use that as a point of decision making). It appears he may have a curled toe (outside right foot) - not sure on that, but this happens on occasion when the frames begin filling out - that heavy weight they put on puts strain on feet, and I would not use a male with a curled toe, personally. I'm unsure whether it's a fault that would result in point reduction in showing or not, though. I like the angle that #2 male holds his wing at a bit better than the first. Again, this one also appears in good condition - kudos on that!

(also, I want to reiterate that I am not an expert - these are simply my novice opinions using what I have learned thus far in breeding these gorgeous birds.)
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oh how GOOD you are with just a photo. I agree with you and its only my opinion
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1. does have a bad comb would not use him for the breed pin. good top line and condition needs better tail feathers I see that he is missing them.

2. nice comb and condition , I could not make out the curled toe but wondered on the yellow under foot? I know it is hard to get all angle in the photo to cover the whole bird. over all nice bird again I really like the comb
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I hope also have not hurt any ones feelings.... great looking GIANTS
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Wynette said:
This one is interesting, and YEAH! FEMALES!!!

I like #1's underline a bit better - it's more rounded all the way back, from vent to bottom of neck. However, I her topline could be a bit flatter/straighter - (SORRY!) she's got a bit of a cushion. Blues are tough - her lacing could be darker, but again, that's a tough one to get bred in and IMO, shouldn't be used as a decision maker about using her. Put her with a good black male, and the blue offspring from the cross will have much better lacing. Her wing carriage is a bit high, but she could just be reacting to having her picture taken.

#2....well, her under line is not bad, but her top line is not great. I would personally not use this bird for breeding. That back should be FLAT - very flat - horizontal. She almost looks to be a bit "U" backed, but could just be the pic. I like her tail very much, and she has a lovely head. To me, her wing carriage is optimal.
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one ? what is IMO?
1. I don't no why the blue female has a cushion look over the top-line..
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I agree it does look wrong

2. again I'm looking at her under footage for Yellow cant tell. also looks to be a small hen. nice tall though
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I want everyone to know the I understand how HARD it is to get a good photo. It is almost impossible to get all the right angel for a perfect photo.
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But doing a great job so far keep them coming!!!
 
4-h - a "cushion" is when the hen has that bump toward the back end - just in front of the tail. I have some silver penciled rocks that I've been working on for a few years now - one of them has a horrible cushion, but everything else is nice, so I have been using her. Lemee see if I can find a pic...well, I can't find a really good pic, it's subtle, though you can see on many breeds a VERY large/puffy/fluffy cushion. Giants should be totally flat, no fluffiness toward the tail.

Oh, sorry - "IMO" means in my opinion.

ETA (edited to add) that yes, it's VERY difficult getting them to pose so you can see all their qualities, and we all need to ALWAYS remember that when we're offering up suggestions.

On the issue of combs, though - it's probably not a good idea to use the comb as a cull point. If they are missing a point or have an extra one, it's only a .5 point deduction. This is coming from a COMB SNOB, by the way! I never look at them...of course, check for springs, those should definitely not be used in a breeding program. And if there was something horribly misshapen with the comb, I may think twice of showing that bird. But, there are so many things that are far more important than a comb. Which has always made me wonder, since it "makes or breaks" a good-looking bird, IMO!
 
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