Jersey Giants thread for pictures and discussion

[ocap]

Which, depending where youare, could be a felony crime. It would be in NY.

good advice from NYREDS, I live where the wild animals roam, bobcat, coyote, cougar, ........ I forget about the other life

 

[ChickenChatten]

This really isn't the place for a dog trainer to read... Lol

 

[Tomtommom]

Trouble with 'shoot, shovel, shut-up' is that they're likely to just replace the dog, so you'd have the same issue again.

Taking the long road of polic & legal action is generally the more permanent solution.

Hate to hear you lost your chickens, this day and age the lack of responsibility and respect for other folk' property and lively hood is just astounding.

Have had to shoo the neighbor kids and cats from my yard plenty of times.

You don't wanna see my poor car (BB dents and cat scratches)

 

[Momhunter]

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Which, depending where youare, could be a felony crime. It would be in NY.
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Not in Texas, a property owner has full legal rights to protect their property. Even the county animal control officers will tell you to take a picture showing the animal on your property to prove they were there before calling them. The dogs are usually long gone before they can come help you. They will tell you if they are killing any livestock to take care of it yourself and keep your mouth shut.
We live on 85 acres with neighbors that own anywhere from 100 to 10. Problem being that city people move out here and think since there not in any city limits they don't have to pen up the dogs. We had several different people having their dogs pack together during the day when owners are at work. The "pets" killed 3 different flocks of chickens, some goats, and a couple of new born calves before being caught in the act. The owners couldn't believe what the dogs had done. The rancher that caught them pulling one of his calves down shot three of them before the others ran off. Luckily the survivors where penned up after that and everyone was safe again.

 

[Wynette]

So sorry for the trouble with the neighbor dog. Since everyone's posting their opinions, here is mine: when you have livestock, it is YOUR responsibility to protect them. They cannot protect themselves. It's extremely unfortunate they were lost, to be sure. Do I feel badly for you? OF COURSE I do!

Folks, chickens are prey. There are many, many predators that look at them as potential feed. Especially since they are domesticated. They're not set up for flying away or even scooting away quickly enough - ESPECIALLY not Giants. BURY YOUR FENCING. The BEST way to keep preds out is to bury your fencing a minimum of 8" down. Preds do not like the metal gainst their claws as they dig. USE HARDWARE CLOTH instead of chicken wire. Most ANY pred can tear through chicken wire or put their claws through. What we have done is use hardware cloth for the bottom 3' of the runs, and then chicken wire up to the top. ADD CHICKEN WIRE OR WELDED WIRE OVER THE RUN. This will prevent airborne preds such as owls and hawks from getting to your flocks.

If you DO free range your flocks - which is really good for them - you need to do it with the knowledge that you're taking chances a predator may get to them.

Lastly, in most states, it is legal to shoot a dog that doesn't belong to you when it comes onto your property. If you must do this, do it, and then immediately call animal control to let them know you've done so.

 

[Tomtommom]

Very true. However, folks should also respect your property and restrain their dogs. It's a give and take situation. A little respect for one another would go a long way.

 

[reinvestment]

Thanks for all the concern and advice. I talked with the man who owns a horse racing farm. -with carts - amish -and now he gets to race some of his horses. Can't understand that "religion". From what I can "gain" by their dos and don'ts, it's mostly about how much MONEY they can gain by what they can do. BUT he was very nice and apologetic and will buy me adult layers to replace mine. So I'm out looking.
He should have known his dogs do roam however, his ***** was in heat and found a neighbors dog (right across the street from me!) to breed. They need obedience training and I am going to try to help them learn how to do it.
I can't explain why I can't find two of my birds. They must have flown over the fence and found another home or are out roaming on their own. They won't last long if they don't find their coop some night. I'm still hoping.
I have a problem with my eggs however. I give them layers mash from the grainery (mostly organic and no soy which cause hormonal problems in people) but some of the egg shells are cracked. They can't be absorbing much of the calcium or they wouldn't do that. I grind up the opened shells, heat them and put them back in their feed. The heating, I am told by a person who shows birds, takes the flavor away from the fresh egg so they won't be enticed to eat their own eggs, which they don't.
If anyone has had this problem and corrected it I would like to have some advice! Thanks

 

[Tomtommom]

Glad there is somewhat of a resolution found. Hope you may find some birds, as good, or perhaps better than what you had before!

 

[bbsnooks]

I talked with the man who owns a horse racing farm.

I have a problem with my eggs however. I give them layers mash from the grainery (mostly organic and no soy which cause hormonal problems in people) but some of the egg shells are cracked. They can't be absorbing much of the calcium or they wouldn't do that. I grind up the opened shells, heat them and put them back in their feed.
If anyone has had this problem and corrected it I would like to have some advice! Thanks

It sounds like you do a lot for your chicks.. they may not know how good they have it..

I'm just beginning so no authority on the egg shell.. but i wonder if the Fermented Feed thread would have some input.
there are 2 i read here at byc the Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds and The Natural Chicken Keeping thread - OTs welcome!

the Natural chicken keeping.. have lots of experience .. with FF = fermented feed's .. I think it would be worth a try.. to post there and ask.

the other thing I'm looking into for calcium suplimentation is Black Soldier Fly grub's
even tho .. some may not like to even think about grubs.. " the chickens love them"
they are not as bad as one might think.. they dont bite.. or carry disease like the house fly..
high in Calcium see here.. http://www.phoenixworm.com/servlet/the-template/comparison/Page
and .. they can.. harvest them selves, with some of the housing.. "bio-pod" - the grub climbs a ramp.. into a tube that deposites it in the container.. to distribute to the chickens.. or other's..


Secondly, this non-pest larvae converts the manure's nutrients into 42% protein and 35% fat feedstuff. This conversion of waste into feedstuff is called bioconversion and, consequently, the larvae can be fed right back to the animals or birds that generated the waste or used as feed for fish or livestock. It can be ground up and fed to earthworms or red worms for a second round or just used as compost. The larva is dry, friable, and odorless.
In addition, many experts believe that the high calcium content of the larvae (also called "phoenix worms") may halt or reverse the effects of metabolic bone disease. This biomass, of larvae harvested nutrients, is worth about the same as meat and bone or fishmeal. It can be easily and economically transported, unlike unprofitable manure, and reduces the need to import concentrates that are added to other types of feed.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/beneficials/beneficial-51_black_soldier_fly.htm

I'm sure there will be an experienced person on here.. i hope you let us know what you find out..
good luck

 

[Herman63]

Just some pics of chicks from eggs that I hatched out. Look like blues?

These are totally different line from my older chicks.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p226/Herman63/3bluejg1.jpeg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p226/Herman63/3bluejg3.jpeg