LA200 Question

[ANiceKaren]

Hey everyone,
I’ve got a sick girl here who seems to not be getting any better. Took her a vet, first time ever with a chicken and I’m feeling like I made her worse. Truthfully, I think vet is doing all she can… it’s a fragile chicken. Anyway, she prescribed LA200 0.2cc injections once a day and meloxicam. I’ve been doing some research about LA200 on here and most of what I’m reading says once every 2-3 days? I guess I’m confused as to why my vet is prescribing it daily for 7 days? I’m hoping I’m not giving her too much? She won’t eat at all.. maybe one or two bites of something per day.. I keep hoping for a little come back but I’m not seeing it. She has had 2 shots of the LA200.. tonight will be shot 3. Thoughts?

She is being treated for ascitis (possible reproductive infection and respiratory) her crop as well is not going down and squishy.. not sour. I assume due to being sick it’s all slowing her down.

 

[Eggcessive]

What are the symptoms of the respiratory and reproductive problems? Unfortunately, LA 200 is a cattle version of oxytetracycline that is injected every 3 days once or twice, and not the greatest choice of antibiotic for chickens. We get a lot of requests for dosage of this product, since it is about the only antibiotic available in feed stores these days. Maybe your vet got info from post one of this old thread?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/miracle-la-200-dosage-and-vetrx-for-crd-treatment.631458/
It is always hard for me to know how to dose that one. The antibiotics used for respiratory disease MG in chickens include oxytet, but I usually recommend some Tylosin powder to treat in the water. Dosage is 1 tsp per gallon for 5 days. Here is where I find it:
https://jedds.com/products/tylosin-powder

For reproductive infections enrofloxacin is used, although vets are not supposed to prescribe it. Amoxicillin is a common other one used.

 

[ANiceKaren]

What are the symptoms of the respiratory and reproductive problems? Unfortunately, LA 200 is a cattle version of oxytetracycline that is injected every 3 days once or twice, and not the greatest choice of antibiotic for chickens. We get a lot of requests for dosage of this product, since it is about the only antibiotic available in feed stores these days. Maybe your vet got info from post one of this old thread?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/miracle-la-200-dosage-and-vetrx-for-crd-treatment.631458/
It is always hard for me to know how to dose that one. The antibiotics used for respiratory disease MG in chickens include oxytet, but I usually recommend some Tylosin powder to treat in the water. Dosage is 1 tsp per gallon for 5 days. Here is where I find it:
https://jedds.com/products/tylosin-powder

For reproductive infections enrofloxacin is used, although vets are not supposed to prescribe it. Amoxicillin is a common other one used.

Thanks for that! Maybe that’s why her progress is none of very little in the right direction. I’ll give the vet a call today for perhaps something different. Ugh. I actually have some fish amoxi on hand. I’m sure I can get another Rx from vet. Her symptoms are swollen abdomen (vet drained 2 viles of cloudy amber/yellowish liquid) xray didn’t show any egg or egg material buildup or tumors. She was breathing heavily and lethargic.. the heavy breathing has stopped and the gurgle/hoarse sound is still there but better. Her poops are very runny with yellowish tint. She will not eat much at all. Like 2-3 bites a day. Her crop is squishy too and doesn’t empty. (I assume due to other infections) This morning she actually free ranged a bit with flock and ate a few bites of worms… she hasn’t done that in days. Maybe she is getting a bit better but it’s VERY touch and go. By the end of the day I think I’m losing her. She can’t roost and just sleeps on bottom of coop floor. Hoping the vet can get me something different for her.

 

[ANiceKaren]

What are the symptoms of the respiratory and reproductive problems? Unfortunately, LA 200 is a cattle version of oxytetracycline that is injected every 3 days once or twice, and not the greatest choice of antibiotic for chickens. We get a lot of requests for dosage of this product, since it is about the only antibiotic available in feed stores these days. Maybe your vet got info from post one of this old thread?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/miracle-la-200-dosage-and-vetrx-for-crd-treatment.631458/
It is always hard for me to know how to dose that one. The antibiotics used for respiratory disease MG in chickens include oxytet, but I usually recommend some Tylosin powder to treat in the water. Dosage is 1 tsp per gallon for 5 days. Here is where I find it:
https://jedds.com/products/tylosin-powder

For reproductive infections enrofloxacin is used, although vets are not supposed to prescribe it. Amoxicillin is a common other one used.

The vet is going to give us a new antibiotic

 

[Eggcessive]

She has ascites or water belly, which is demonstrated by the yellow fluid from her abdomen. They may have labored breathing, and an enlarged lower abdomen. It is the same thing as cirrhosis in humans. Hens with reproductive disorders (salpingitis and egg yolk peritonitis) or even cancer can have it. I saw it innone hen with fatty liver disease. The urates may be yellow instead of white or there can be yellow fluid in the droppings. The enlarged abdomen and increased pressure causes labored breathing, and the crop may not empty well. Draining may help the breathing and make her more comfortable for some time. But it is not curable. I would probably consider her quality of life and while making her comfortable as possible, consider putting her down to prevent suffering. It one of those uncomfortable things we have to do when caring for livestock and pets. Consider having your state vet do a necropsy on her body, or doing one at home as a learning experience. Many people post pictures here of the necropsies they do when asking for help in a diagnosis. In mine, I have found a number of things, such as cancer, salpingitis/internal laying, fatty liver disease, and ascites. Let us know how she gets along.

 

[ANiceKaren]

She has ascites or water belly, which is demonstrated by the yellow fluid from her abdomen. They may have labored breathing, and an enlarged lower abdomen. It is the same thing as cirrhosis in humans. Hens with reproductive disorders (salpingitis and egg yolk peritonitis) or even cancer can have it. I saw it innone hen with fatty liver disease. The urates may be yellow instead of white or there can be yellow fluid in the droppings. The enlarged abdomen and increased pressure causes labored breathing, and the crop may not empty well. Draining may help the breathing and make her more comfortable for some time. But it is not curable. I would probably consider her quality of life and while making her comfortable as possible, consider putting her down to prevent suffering. It one of those uncomfortable things we have to do when caring for livestock and pets. Consider having your state vet do a necropsy on her body, or doing one at home as a learning experience. Many people post pictures here of the necropsies they do when asking for help in a diagnosis. In mine, I have found a number of things, such as cancer, salpingitis/internal laying, fatty liver disease, and ascites. Let us know how she gets along.

Thank you. I’m fully prepared to put her down when needed. Unfortunately Ive had to do this before for what seems like the same issue. Seems to happen a lot to my girls. I live in elevation so I’m wondering from research if that makes things worse for my girls? I also know to not expect a full recovery but I’m hoping for a bit more time with Lilac. This seemed to come on overnight! I’m hoping it’s just infection that can be eased a bit by some antibiotics and she can carry on some more time comfortably. But I surely know it will ultimately end her life. While it’s been very slow I do see some progress.. she is up with her flock right now ranging and drinking water. Hoping the new antibiotics help even more. I appreciate the response! I’m curious to know what causes this.. why I see this so often. I suppose it could be a number of different things. I hate to think I’m doing something that causes it. I think sometimes wildbirds? I choose to freerange my girls and of course that means they are around wildlife much more often.. they sure are happy though so it’s a trade off for me Here she is right now