Langshan Thread!!!

[rodriguezpoultry]

And apparently broodiness is infectious. I have a hen that is on 6 eggs. She's been there for about 2 weeks. All of a sudden, her daughter in the same pen, wants to brood. On the same eggs. I've tried separating, tried putting another broody box in..NOPE. So, I shall let them brood on the eggs and when they are supposed to hatch, move the REAL Mother over, put eggs into the box for the free-loader and let them have at it.

 

[cluckcluckluke]

Cluckcluckluke, those have a bantam face. I would bet they are oversized bantams.

Where are you located?

I live in Australia and the guy I got them of is a licensed breeder and is the top show man of Langshans in my area, now unless he has given me his "rejects" but he did say that the 2 pullets have gone to show but didn't get much so they are obviously good enough to go to show, maybe the Australian standard is much more different than the US.

I have no experience with Langshans I just really think they are a top breed. Don't worry about it, it really doesn't matter.

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

No it does! This thread is for all Langshans, Australians and German Langshans included. The faces on your particular birds look like bantam faces. On bantams, the eyes tend to look larger than the faces are more red with flatter areas and lack feathering in more spots than on a standard bird. This is universal on all breeds. That is why I am betting they are bantams and not standards.

Could you contact the person you bought them from and ask?

It could also be that the Australian Langshan is overall a smaller bird than a Croad.

 

[cluckcluckluke]

No it does! This thread is for all Langshans, Australians and German Langshans included. The faces on your particular birds look like bantam faces. On bantams, the eyes tend to look larger than the faces are more red with flatter areas and lack feathering in more spots than on a standard bird. This is universal on all breeds. That is why I am betting they are bantams and not standards.

Could you contact the person you bought them from and ask?

It could also be that the Australian Langshan is overall a smaller bird than a Croad.

O.K I will get some more pics up of them so you can have a better look, I am actually planning on going over to his place in the next couple of days I will ask for you.

 

[thorleif]

Cluckie. I thought they had a bit unusual shape on them, but if they are Australian that is easily explained. Australian Langshans are more like Australororps in shape. That is because 50 years or so ago, the Croad Langshans nearly died out, and some enthusiasts started mixing in other breeds, to save them. I do believe "Proper" Croads do exist in Australia now. They will have been imported in the last few years, but the Australian Langshan is now recognised as a breed on it's own. If you PM me your e-Mail, I will send you the October-issue of "Croad News", If I remember right, some Australian person wrote in some more about that, but she did not know the full story, but at least she is referring to some breeders, so have a look. Also, if you go on Youtube, there is an Australian guy, Tony McKenna that has put up a few good films, where you can see his birds. Put Croad Langshan in the search-box, and you have plenty to watch. The size is probably a result of in-breeding.

 

[cluckcluckluke]

Cluckie. I thought they had a bit unusual shape on them, but if they are Australian that is easily explained. Australian Langshans are more like Australororps in shape. That is because 50 years or so ago, the Croad Langshans nearly died out, and some enthusiasts started mixing in other breeds, to save them. I do believe "Proper" Croads do exist in Australia now. They will have been imported in the last few years, but the Australian Langshan is now recognised as a breed on it's own. If you PM me your e-Mail, I will send you the October-issue of "Croad News", If I remember right, some Australian person wrote in some more about that, but she did not know the full story, but at least she is referring to some breeders, so have a look. Also, if you go on Youtube, there is an Australian guy, Tony McKenna that has put up a few good films, where you can see his birds. Put Croad Langshan in the search-box, and you have plenty to watch. The size is probably a result of in-breeding.

Wow thanks thorleif, I already knew about the Australorp crossing but I will have good search about, I am also keen on getting a few Croad Langshans to add to my flock. Also I think your right all of his flock are inbred, which is weird, but their you go. When I was completely unknowledgeable about chickens he was talking all about gene pool and that I could start up a nice A or B gene pool from some chicks he hatched for me but this never happened and I still don't understand what he was talking about.

 

[thorleif]

See if you can source some Croad Langshans. Your Poultry-club may be able to help you? They are the same chicken as the Langshan in the US, and I really dont know why the Americans dont call them that. From the original stock, imported from China to England in 1872, there was developed two main lines, one taller than the type we call Croads plus the type we now call Croads. The other type was named Modern Langshan, and I only know of a handful of people that still breeds them, so they are ectremely rare nowadays. Later the Germans developed a new breed, called German Langshans. They are poor layers, and mainly an exebition-breed. Very pretty, though. When the breeder mentioned breeding lines, he ment you keep them in 2 (or more) flocks, and only cross those two lines every 6-10 years. Dont ever cross siblings, and then you will see size, fertility and laying improving. You have to be a bit hard to begin with, cull bad types, and only breed from good layers, but after a few years you will see how it works. I only keep LF (Big) White Croads, and I hardly have to cull any, as the pure Langshan is a very old breed, and they have very strong genes. If you cannot have two flocks, see if you can find somebody to breed one (or more) flock, and swap a cockeral every so often. They will be related, of course, but they are still a valuable outcross.
I will go more into detail about this in some articles I write for http://www.thechickenwhisperer.co.uk/ so keep an eye open for that. I will have as a guess they will be published in February sometimes. There will be at least 3 arrticles about breeding, and in the one about breeding rare breeds, there will be a part where I explain how I do with my Croads.

 

[PetRock]

See if you can source some Croad Langshans. Your Poultry-club may be able to help you? They are the same chicken as the Langshan in the US, and I really dont know why the Americans dont call them that. From the original stock, imported from China to England in 1872, there was developed two main lines, one taller than the type we call Croads plus the type we now call Croads. The other type was named Modern Langshan, and I only know of a handful of people that still breeds them, so they are ectremely rare nowadays. Later the Germans developed a new breed, called German Langshans. They are poor layers, and mainly an exebition-breed. Very pretty, though. When the breeder mentioned breeding lines, he ment you keep them in 2 (or more) flocks, and only cross those two lines every 6-10 years. Dont ever cross siblings, and then you will see size, fertility and laying improving. You have to be a bit hard to begin with, cull bad types, and only breed from good layers, but after a few years you will see how it works. I only keep LF (Big) White Croads, and I hardly have to cull any, as the pure Langshan is a very old breed, and they have very strong genes. If you cannot have two flocks, see if you can find somebody to breed one (or more) flock, and swap a cockeral every so often. They will be related, of course, but they are still a valuable outcross.
I will go more into detail about this in some articles I write for http://www.thechickenwhisperer.co.uk/ so keep an eye open for that. I will have as a guess they will be published in February sometimes. There will be at least 3 arrticles about breeding, and in the one about breeding rare breeds, there will be a part where I explain how I do with my Croads.

Thank you for letting us know about the upcoming articles! I am subscribing to the blog so I don't miss it. I have so much to learn about breeding!

 

[cluckcluckluke]

See if you can source some Croad Langshans. Your Poultry-club may be able to help you? They are the same chicken as the Langshan in the US, and I really dont know why the Americans dont call them that. From the original stock, imported from China to England in 1872, there was developed two main lines, one taller than the type we call Croads plus the type we now call Croads. The other type was named Modern Langshan, and I only know of a handful of people that still breeds them, so they are ectremely rare nowadays. Later the Germans developed a new breed, called German Langshans. They are poor layers, and mainly an exebition-breed. Very pretty, though. When the breeder mentioned breeding lines, he ment you keep them in 2 (or more) flocks, and only cross those two lines every 6-10 years. Dont ever cross siblings, and then you will see size, fertility and laying improving. You have to be a bit hard to begin with, cull bad types, and only breed from good layers, but after a few years you will see how it works. I only keep LF (Big) White Croads, and I hardly have to cull any, as the pure Langshan is a very old breed, and they have very strong genes. If you cannot have two flocks, see if you can find somebody to breed one (or more) flock, and swap a cockeral every so often. They will be related, of course, but they are still a valuable outcross.
I will go more into detail about this in some articles I write for http://www.thechickenwhisperer.co.uk/ so keep an eye open for that. I will have as a guess they will be published in February sometimes. There will be at least 3 arrticles about breeding, and in the one about breeding rare breeds, there will be a part where I explain how I do with my Croads.

Wow I think this is way above me, I don't plan on breeding Langshans, I just get a few every so often of this man. I don't think I would have the time nor recourses to be able have 2 flocks and then breed them and cull of what I don't want, I wouldn't even know what to look for. But thanks thorleif, I will look out for your article though and have a bit of a read up on the Langshans as they do interest me.

 

[MA Mama]

Hello, I was wondering if you all could predict yet the gender of this Langshan chick, born on December 26. All the pics ar the same chick. THANKS in advance!