Lavender Orpington project ....

Braclin you must select against it and use the better feathered Lav aka (SELF-BLUE) birds in your breeding pens only. it will and can be corrected if you do this when crossing back against good blacks. However i believe you will always see this in a small % of offspring and one must just select wisely when re breeding them and hatch lots for select-ability..

One thing i can say its less seen in hard feathered birds like our Lav araucana project, yes it is there but not as much seen as with the orps at this time. If you look at some of the Loose feathered UK lav birds you can see they still have the same problem there as well, of course some will not show many pic's or only show you pic's they want you to see, but you can bet it is there...

uk lav pic's
http://chirpychicks.com/lavender_orpington.htm

heres an article by Danne Honour has some very good info in it..
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http://www.aviculture-europe.nl/nummers/09E03A09.pdf

Self Blue Old English - A Rising Variety by Mark Cobb
http://www.bantychicken.com/OEGBCA/articles/selfblue.htm

Lav gen possible eye color dilution info
http://www.edelras.nl/chickengenetics/mutations2.html
From Dr Okimoto..........
There is a gene for brown eye, but I can't remember to much about it. I'll have to look it up. Eye color is also associated with the E locus alleles (black produces darker eyes) and genes like dominant white will dilute the eye color. I would expect blue and lavendar to do this too.

A must watch
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Feather Evolution video 1 of 5
 
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heres a pic of my new roo i got to breed my lavs next year he is huge i took a pic of him next to our american standard black roo who is a year old first pic is my american roo so you can see that he is a good size roo when he is not next to the english.he should def add some size to our lavs.next year we will do all splits to blacks
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Ever happy to share my pics of lavs. just sortingg them out from one old pc to my new one. You mention Nic's website and those pics are quite old, dont know where Chirpychicks has been, he does like a verbal scrap as well as breeding cracking birds, those on his website are quite old pics, he may have bred them on a bit now.

I only breed bantam lav orps now - more of that later. my large lav project is something I thought about in 2006 when I hatched my 1st from an early strain of lav crossed to black. A very strong bird - tough as old boots unlike a lot of lads at that time which were reaching a year or so and keeling over. He had no interest in large lav girls, so I got rid of him a year or so ago. Shame in a way, 1st chuck I ever showed - got a 3rd, dont know if they were being kind to a newbe.
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I got a later line of large girls for my wife as a gift a year or so ago, these show I think, the work done by P. Middleton to get the colour lighter, she called it pearl I think. Once again these are from a black crossing. lovely girls, good feather type.
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Keep you posted on the bantams I keep, loads of the same problems as the large. here a quick pick of one of my own bred banties with the large.
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Another good site if you dont know it is the european orpington club site, Jose has a passion for the Lavs - she is getting some cuckoo lavs through, mine I hope at the end of the year.
 

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