Lazy Peachick

[Peafowlssssssss]

Kathy, should i just place the tube in his mouth? And how many feed i should feed him in the morning? i can't see where is she placing it.

 

[enola]

The tube needs to be inserted into the crop to prevent drowning him.

 

[Garden Peas]

Kathy, should i just place the tube in his mouth? And how many feed i should feed him in the morning? i can't see where is she placing it.

Othman, do you see where the syringe is in this picture? The tube must go in there. It is to the side of that hole in the middle.

That hole in the middle is the trachea... DO NOT PUT ANYTHING IN THE HOLE IN THE MIDDLE! That is the bird's airway.

Birds are different from people. We swallow and breathe with a combined pipe at the top in the backs of our mouths. Birds have separate pathways for air (the hole in the center, the trachea), and the hole at the left of the photo which leads to the crop.

I'm sure Kathy will send more photos and diagrams.

 

[Garden Peas]

If liquid (or anything) goes into the hole in the center, it goes straight into the bird's lung, and the bird can drown or develop pneumonia, and the bird will not be able to breathe.

The reason for using the tube is that by putting the fluids and baby bird food straight into the bird's crop, there is less chance of the bird inhaling the fluids/food, and less chance of the bird suffocating or drowning or developing pneumonia.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

Othman, do you see where the syringe is in this picture? The tube must go in there. It is to the side of that hole in the middle.

That hole in the middle is the trachea... DO NOT PUT ANYTHING IN THE HOLE IN THE MIDDLE! That is the bird's airway.

Birds are different from people. We swallow and breathe with a combined pipe at the top in the backs of our mouths. Birds have separate pathways for air (the hole in the center, the trachea), and the hole at the left of the photo which leads to the crop.

I'm sure Kathy will send more photos and diagrams.

That's a great example, thank you!

 

[Garden Peas]

I cannot take credit for the photo, it comes originally from Hopkins Alternative Livestock, although I first saw it on BYC, I think from Kathy. Here is the Hopkins article:

http://hopkinslivestock.com/oral_dosing_article.htm

The procedure for putting fluid and bird baby food into the crop is similar, except instead of just putting the meds there, in the upper part of the throat, a tube is actually inserted into the throat and down through the throat into the crop, and then the fluids are pushed through the tube (usually a catheter or something similar) directly into the crop, reducing the chance of the bird accidentally getting meds into its windpipe (trachea).

You can see from the Hopkins article that he uses a long-nosed syringe, without a needle, to make sure that he is placing the meds lower down in the throat, past the opening to the windpipe.

When tube feeding, you don't have to rely on the bird being able to swallow...

 

[Garden Peas]

So how much fluid has the bird received now? And did he get his metronidazole today?

And how is he looking... any improvement at all?

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

So how much fluid has the bird received now? And did he get his metronidazole today?

And how is he looking... any improvement at all?

Just ended the third round of fluid, now he got 60ml of water and 90ml of pedialyte.

I will give him metronidazole now, he still acting the same way, at least he isn't getting worse.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

New poop from him:

 

[Garden Peas]

Just ended the third round of fluid, now he got 60ml of water and 90ml of pedialyte.

I will give him metronidazole now, he still acting the same way, at least he isn't getting worse.

Oh dear, I think I confused you... we were going to do four rounds of 30 ml each... so 120 altogether. But 150 ml, if he is keeping it down, is good, probably even better. If he just had fluids, wait a little bit before giving the metronidazole so he doesn't vomit it up.

Did you see what AugeredIn said earlier about crushing it and giving it with a little bit of water? That may increase the absorption.