Lesson in culling baby chick?

[The Moonshiner]

I didn't really mean that to be a geographical crack, just meant that's a really "white trash" thing to do

Now it's "white trash"?
You're going from the frying pan into the fire with me. Might as well make it a trifecta and throw in "trailer trash" so you can cover everything I've been labeled.


Seriously though just messing with you.
I'm sure you hit the nail on the head about it being some dirt worshiper type.

 

[danceswithronin]

I'm 100% plant based with the exception of eating the eggs my hens lay (I know that my hens are treated very well and they are not living in the conditions of commercial chickens). I don't let that cloud my judgment about farming done the correct way... There are farmers who truly care about their animals and they take pride in their animals, there are other farmers who treat their animals like dirt on the bottom of their shoe! I respect farmers who do things humanely... My family eats meat that is farmed the correct way because I've watched all those documentaries and they literally made my stomach turn! Those documentaries are truly the reason why I am plant based and why I have my own chickens for eggs...

People still are blinded sometimes even when they watch those documentaries because we have all become desensitized to what's going on around us!

Thank you for sharing this!

I am a meat eater as well - try to source humanely as often as I can - and I actually am in the process of getting my hunting license for deer and small game. Already fish for food too. So I'm not adverse to killing for food, I just think the agricultural-industral complex is disgusting.

I'm considering raising meat bird like quails or meat chickens or partridges/pheasants. I think vegetarianism and veganism are really laudable lifestyle choices, but I also recognize that they are difficult lifestyle choices to maintain in our current culture. Western cuisine is very meat and grain heavy.

I am also seriously considering going back to a vegan-ish lifestyle other than the eggs I collect from my own yard though rather than raising meat animals though, I believe it is much healthier and when I went vegan I lost thirty pounds (that needed to be lost) without even trying.

 

[chkva]

I am a meat eater as well - try to source humanely as often as I can - and I actually am in the process of getting my hunting license for deer and small game. Already fish for food too. So I'm not adverse to killing for food, I just think the agricultural-industral complex is disgusting.

I'm considering raising meat bird like quails or meat chickens or partridges/pheasants. I think vegetarianism and veganism are really laudable lifestyle choices, but I also recognize that they are difficult lifestyle choices to maintain in our current culture. Western cuisine is very meat and grain heavy.

I am also seriously considering going back to a vegan-ish lifestyle other than the eggs I collect from my own yard though rather than raising meat animals though, I believe it is much healthier and when I went vegan I lost thirty pounds (that needed to be lost) without even trying.

It's definitely a hard lifestyle to maintain, but if you start searching for companies that are starting to get plant-based, vegetarian, vegan food... It's becoming a huge thing now. Burger King just purchased into Beyond Burger along with Red Robin, TGI Fridays, and some other businesses.

I'm actually getting my hunting license so that I can put food on the table for my family as weird as that sounds. I value hunting animals for food or raising animals for food when it's done correctly.

Chicken eggs are a very good source of food I have learned. Chicken eggs are not all equal, I've learned that through my experience. Eggs from a store will never equal up to an egg of a backyard free-range chicken! I've tasted many eggs over the past year and I can tell the difference between anyone's eggs. one of my friend's eggs were what I was aiming for when I started my chickens and I have followed her directions to a t, I think I've actually done it!

It's all in how you raise the animal or kill the animal that determines how the meat is. A cow that has been treated with the utmost respect and humanely slaughtered tastes so much different then a cow that is treated poorly and slaughtered poorly. People don't believe me until they taste a cow from a farmer that's local... It's truly shocking

If only prices of meats would be affordable for everyone, I think that's the huge reason why bad farming has become so huge. Their prices are what make their sales. They're dirt cheap and there's a reason why...

 

[The Moonshiner]

when I went vegan I lost thirty pounds (that needed to be lost) without even trying.

If I went vegan I would too but it would be from starvation.
I have nothing against vegetarians. I think all the animals I eat should be one.

 

[Ebony Rose]

I'm considering raising meat bird like quails or meat chickens...

Japanese Coturnix Quail are SUPER easy to raise and reasonably quiet. They need to be caged though (some may disagree), but quail are truly at the very bottom rung of the food-chain, EVERYTHING likes to eat them, so protecting them from predators is easiest in a cage, in my opinion. As for feed, they need game bird feed 20-24% protein, calcium served on the side if you're looking for egg production. I get a 88 pound bag (40 kilos) for $22 USD. They eat just under an ounce of this high quality feed daily, per bird. (16 birds = 1 pound a day). I seldom offer treats, but when I do, I do it sparingly and stick to high protein treats like mashed hard-boiled eggs, as I don't want to reduce their overall protein intake. Quail go from day old to adult in 6 to 8 WEEKS. Separate the males from your covey as you discover them into a separate cage to 'grow out' (to meat sized birds) keeping an eye on which, if any of them you'd like to become breeding stock. You can put one male back in with the females at a ratio of 1 male to (up to) 8 hens, with an absolute minimum of at least three hens per roo. If you will have more than one roo in a cage, then you need a huge cage with lots of hidey-holes; quail roos have been known to fight to the death for the right to breed. I use wire bottom cages with poop trays underneath that are easily removed and cleaned without moving the cages. It takes me about 5 minutes to feed, water, dump poop trays and clean/add sand to their sand boxes daily and gather eggs, and I have four cages.

 

[chkva]

If I went vegan I would too but it would be from starvation.
I have nothing against vegetarians. I think all the animals I eat should be one.

you're on a roll today

 

[gtaus]

The man buying the chicks or the staff member?
Killing the chick is fine, doing it right there was callous, tossing it back into the tank just stupid. Just another d!ckhead, probably playing to you as an audience.
Curious how store staff reacted?

The man buying the chicks was picking up his order. All the birds in that stock tank were his - about 30 birds. One was dying and the man buying the chick threw it back into the tank after they had been transferred to a cardboard box. The staff did not see this as she was walking to the checkout counter. I was the only other customer there at the time and I don't think he was playing to me as an audience. I'm way too old to be impressed by that action, and, I really don't think this guy meant any malice. He was just swift, deliberate, and it was over.

As I said, this event left me speechless. After thinking about it more, the only thing I really felt "bad" about was the fact that he threw the dead chick back into the stock tank where little children could see it.

Fortunately, the staff at the Fleet store are actually very good at quickly removing dead chicks so little children don't have to see dead birds in the tanks. All the staff there selling chicks have experience raising chicks, so I ask lots of questions when I go there. Lots of people bring their children by the birds to let them take a look and the store knows that very well. The staff is very good.

 

[aart]

The man buying the chicks was picking up his order. All the birds in that stock tank were his - about 30 birds.......

Ahh, a much clearer picture, thank you.
Definitely a 'good' lesson in decisive culling...just an odd place to see it.
But this thread will go on and on in outrage.

 

[bobbi-j]

Ahh, a much clearer picture, thank you.
Definitely a 'good' lesson in decisive culling...just an odd place to see it.
But this thread will go on and on in outrage.

I can't say I'm outraged. Yes, the man put the chick out of its misery. It just seemed odd to me that he threw it back in the tank. I was thinking at the time that it was an employee that killed the chick and threw it back in.

 

[aart]

I can't say I'm outraged.

Not you, you read the whole thread and are pragmatic....but just wait and see