Let's talk Golden Cuckoo Marans!

[morbius18]

Also, I really like this coloration, but I think there is a sprig above his eye on the comb. Would you use him or try for another of this coloration? He's the only one of this color that I've gotten so far out of over 100 or so chicks.

He looks like he is going to be more reddish in the hackle and saddle area.

 

[Chooks man]

I like the first one, very nice. Second, the gaps are very deep. Third isn't too bad. First one is away from the back of the neck and looks good. I see the second touching.

Are they all yours?

yeah I agree with you the first one Sleek has a best comb that why I called him Sleek referring to his comb .

they are all mine .

the second is from the Birchen line Blondie .

 

[strivetoimprove]

I'll ask again in the spring, just send me a pm when I do. I'll forget before now and then.

That would be amazing of you. Is it better at this stage to use a gcm or a fbcm i keep seeing that mixing the fbcm and gcm together have better results.

 

[morbius18]

That would be amazing of you. Is it better at this stage to use a gcm or a fbcm i keep seeing that mixing the fbcm and gcm together have better results.

I initially used a black copper marans to create some golden cuckoo hens. After this initial breeding, I no longer have the F0 black copper marans hen. However, I am using a blue copper with dark eggs to bring the dark eggs into my line and create blue barred Golden cuckoos. I also have a splash marans hen as well to throw all blue barred.

So genetically, Golden cuckoo marans are barred black coppers. This means you can do blues and splashes that are barred as well. At any time you can cross to the respective coppers (black, blue and splash) and back cross to create non barred birds that are genetically blue, black and splashes.

I don't know if I answered your question, it depends on what you want to do with the line whether or not you use black coppers or not.

 

[strivetoimprove]

I initially used a black copper marans to create some golden cuckoo hens. After this initial breeding, I no longer have the F0 black copper marans hen. However, I am using a blue copper with dark eggs to bring the dark eggs into my line and create blue barred Golden cuckoos. I also have a splash marans hen as well to throw all blue barred.

So genetically, Golden cuckoo marans are barred black coppers. This means you can do blues and splashes that are barred as well. At any time you can cross to the respective coppers (black, blue and splash) and back cross to create non barred birds that are genetically blue, black and splashes.

I don't know if I answered your question, it depends on what you want to do with the line whether or not you use black coppers or not.

It's easy to find a fbcm than a gcm where i am so i was wondering is it ok or just a pain in the butt to do so?

 

[morbius18]

It's easy to find a fbcm than a gcm where i am so i was wondering is it ok or just a pain in the butt to do so?

So, you last said that you had GCM hens.

Based off that you would need to find a BCM rooster that hatched from a darker egg, or from a line with darker eggs.

This isn't really required, but since you are crossing, it's a perfect opportunity to bring in darker eggs. At a minimum at least as dark as your hen's eggs.

First crossing would yield sex links. All males will be single (dark) barred. All females will be black coppers.

Raise the black coppers and have a breeding group with the BCM rooster, or sell them.

Take the nicest single barred rooster and cross to your hens. Female offspring will be half black coppers and half correct golden cuckoos. Male offspring will be half single barred (dark) and half double barred (light).

Take the nicest double barred and breed to your hens and they breed true. All males will be double barred (light) and females will be dark. You can usually sex them at hatch as well. Males will be gray, females black.

You will get different colors of red to gold in the males. I've had some look like black coppers with barring and some light blonde with barring.

It takes some work, but you will have started your own line.

 

[morbius18]

It's easy to find a fbcm than a gcm where i am so i was wondering is it ok or just a pain in the butt to do so?

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

Click 'help, pick color from list'

Select black copper and Golden cuckoo and from the lists, on the right click 'to chicken calculator' and test crossings

 

[morbius18]

This one is from @Moribius18. I don't know how could get any better. He weighed in at well over 7 lbs yesterday and is not a year old yet. The white on his comb is reflection from the sun. I can't get a picture that truly shows how pretty this cockerel is.

He is a big beautiful rooster. I've had people buy the roosters comment on how big they are. I do like how the single barred looks. Here is a few of one of his sibling:

I think he might be a later hatch than yours though. Did the hen/pullet ever develop gold?

 

[morbius18]

One of my younger single barred cockeral is starting to grow a decent comb. Still has the 2 knobs on the back that every rooster in my line seems to possess.


Younger pic:

Newer pic:

 

[cree57i]

He is a big beautiful rooster. I've had people buy the roosters comment on how big they are. I do like how the single barred looks. Here is a few of one of his sibling:


I think he might be a later hatch than yours though. Did the hen/pullet ever develop gold?

No, she never developed any gold. The other one has gold throughout. I need to get a picture of her. She is most unusual.