Let's talk Golden Cuckoo Marans!

[freddyyoung]

Hi, do you have any advice on how to get true breeding gcms with the cockerel I have and the wheaten hens? Any advice would be much appreciated

 

[chickee]

Hi, do you have any advice on how to get true breeding gcms with the cockerel I have and the wheaten hens? Any advice would be much appreciated

I'm sorry, I don't know what you would get with that cross. Would be fun anyway to hatch some chicks from them and see.

I have 6 GCM pullet eggs set for the NYD hatch-a-long. Excited to see what the pullets bred back to their father will produce.

 

[buckabucka]

Good luck with your hatch, chickie!

 

[chickee]

Good luck with your hatch, chickie!

Thanks!

I'll be posting pictures.

 

[chickee]

All 6 eggs hatched

These GCM are really prolific! Such a strong, healthy breed! I had a surprise when the last egg hatched. The chick is almost all yellow! I don't know yet if it is a throw back to wheaten or my BW Ameraucana got to my girls.

The chick sure is cute! I ended up with 4 girls, 1 boy and the yellow chick, which I can't tell yet if it is a boy or girl since its color is off, but I suspect it is a boy. I like that I consistently get more girls.

Here is the new gang~

 

[buckabucka]

All 6 eggs hatched These GCM are really prolific! Such a strong, healthy breed! I had a surprise when the last egg hatched. The chick is almost all yellow! I don't know yet if it is a throw back to wheaten or my BW Ameraucana got to my girls. The chick sure is cute! I ended up with 4 girls, 1 boy and the yellow chick, which I can't tell yet if it is a boy or girl since its color is off, but I suspect it is a boy. I like that I consistently get more girls. Here is the new gang~

Congratulations! They are adorable! I can't wait to see what that yellow one turns out like. Consistently getting girls makes me nervous. That is what the breeder I bought from last spring said, that his had been throwing mostly girls. By the time I got some eggs, they were throwing all boys! I keep telling myself that that can't happen two years in a row (although I know it could!)

 

[brothfeder]

I've been skimming/searching this thread and noticed that Golden Cuckoo Marans don't seem to breed true. Just looking at the first post, you can get Salmons, Silver cuckoos, blacks, wheatons marans roos. I only have 1 hen and 8 roos. The roos all look different, but the female (which I have nothing to compare it to) has the barred trait. Now due to the sex-linked barred gene, the females always look barred, right? Regarding the roos, you got a whole mess of genetics to work out. My other question follows up on this: so since this breed does not breed true, is it really a breed? I don't have APA standards book yet, but I'm guessing they aren't listed under the marans section yet.

 

[wjkmg]

All 6 eggs hatched

These GCM are really prolific! Such a strong, healthy breed! I had a surprise when the last egg hatched. The chick is almost all yellow! I don't know yet if it is a throw back to wheaten or my BW Ameraucana got to my girls.

The chick sure is cute! I ended up with 4 girls, 1 boy and the yellow chick, which I can't tell yet if it is a boy or girl since its color is off, but I suspect it is a boy. I like that I consistently get more girls.

Here is the new gang~

Very very cute

 

[chickee]

Congratulations! They are adorable! I can't wait to see what that yellow one turns out like.

Consistently getting girls makes me nervous. That is what the breeder I bought from last spring said, that his had been throwing mostly girls. By the time I got some eggs, they were throwing all boys! I keep telling myself that that can't happen two years in a row (although I know it could!)

I am very curious to see how that yellow one feathers in too. I had one light colored one in another hatch (not yellow but very light brown) and it feathered in normal and ended up being a girl when I thought for sure it was boy. Hoping the same for the yellow one. So far the people who have hatched my GCM eggs have gotten more girls too. Hopefully that will continue this year!

I've been skimming/searching this thread and noticed that Golden Cuckoo Marans don't seem to breed true. Just looking at the first post, you can get Salmons, Silver cuckoos, blacks, wheatons marans roos. I only have 1 hen and 8 roos. The roos all look different, but the female (which I have nothing to compare it to) has the barred trait. Now due to the sex-linked barred gene, the females always look barred, right? Regarding the roos, you got a whole mess of genetics to work out. My other question follows up on this: so since this breed does not breed true, is it really a breed? I don't have APA standards book yet, but I'm guessing they aren't listed under the marans section yet.

GCMs are "cuckoo" and I am not sure how genetically that is different than barred. I am terrible with genetics so can't help there.

And yes they don't always breed true because they are still a project color. Mine are pretty consistent, but they came from a breeder who had (they no longer breed them) been working on them for several years. To answer your question . . yes they are considered a "breed" of Marans, because they have the traits of the Marans type and lay a dark egg. In fact, only recently the Black Copper Marans were accepted by the APA but no other color. But even accepted breeds once in a while throw off colored chicks.

Very very cute

Thanks

 

[jbkirk]

I've been skimming/searching this thread and noticed that Golden Cuckoo Marans don't seem to breed true. Just looking at the first post, you can get Salmons, Silver cuckoos, blacks, wheatons marans roos. I only have 1 hen and 8 roos. The roos all look different, but the female (which I have nothing to compare it to) has the barred trait. Now due to the sex-linked barred gene, the females always look barred, right? Regarding the roos, you got a whole mess of genetics to work out. My other question follows up on this: so since this breed does not breed true, is it really a breed? I don't have APA standards book yet, but I'm guessing they aren't listed under the marans section yet.

According to the French Standard a Marans has to lay at least a number 4 egg consistently to be called a Marans... and then you get into colors............anyways most all of the current Types breed true and the reason this kind does not is because of the limited stock in the US and that they only recently were developed.


If you replace the Leghorn in this chart with Wheaton Marans and the Barred Plymouth with plain Cuckoo Marans you are suposed to get Golden Cuckoo Marans and replace the Wheatons with Birchen the you will get Silver Cuckoo. This is my understanding