Hi - I have llamas and love them! I got into them about 12 yrs ago starting with two gelded males for packing. I joined a llama club in my area so I could learn more and hiked and packed for several yrs. with the club. I have reduced my herd to only 5 now, 3 geldings and 2 females. Basically, we never took out the females with the males on packing trips. Intact males & geldings get along okay on the trail but if you add a female there is trouble on the trail. (Females don't have heat cycles, the presense of the male stimulates them into heat) My females are natural guards in the pasture, the geldings could care less. All live with my three horses and everyone gets along. Llamas can run really fast and are very intelligent and keep out of reach of the horses. I have heard of a couple of people trying packing using horses but it is not a good idea. Basically, llamas walk the speed of people so hiking with packs is the desired way. If you can get a slow moving horse who does not kick then I guess it would work but everyone I know uses them for carrying supplies while they hike. One of our members takes people into the Sierras for the wkends and gets $300 per llama for the wkend, usually 1-2 llamas per person depending on equipment carrying. Next wk he picks them up, another $300 per llama, and he did pretty good until he retired at 85 yrs. ! Well, any questions just ask and I'll try to answer. I was told if your guarding a herd of sheep to use only one guard llama as otherwise they bond with the other llama and don't stay with the herd well. Sharon